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Post by brocktownsend on Aug 8, 2009 22:08:38 GMT -5
"Oh no, don't misunderstand my statements. I am not all daisies and butterflies. yesterday I was set to destroy everything and everyone on earth. ( I paid $90 for 4 bags of food at the grocery store). but our situation is what it is. you mentioned negating superior firepower and people living in caves. That's my point. is living in a cave , deprived of your normal freedoms , any different than living in a prison ?" Good to have you back Bob but I for one would have to say that living in a cave deprived of my normal freedoms by my own choice in a fight for freedom would definitely be better than living in a prison by the choice of the enemy. Busboy your optimism is a laudable but for all of that I believe that we will have a national health care bill passed shortly after the recess and even though it will be watered down it will be one more step towards the point of no return. Everything the Obaanation cursade wnats will get passed even if only in a watered down version. I plan on attending at least two town hall meetings and I will continue to do what I can within the system, but the time is coming ever closer to when there will be no turning back. I hope I am wrong but even with all the uproar from We The People on this recess I am afraid our "public servants" (enough of a majority) will go back and march lock step as they pass a version of government health care. They will then proudly tell the people that they fought to restrict the governments reach into our lives. I do not disagree that we need to keep up the pressure our representatives. In fact in the 10th here we have a decent man in Patrick McHenry and I am going to as many town hall meetings as I can to support him as much as to speak. You never know when the Obama thugs may show up. Bottom line is that I have become convinced that we will see a Civil War here in America and we are not too far off. If the slide into the Socialistic/Facist hell continues and in 2010 we do not show a significant pull back from the edge then we will may not get another chance in 2012. Fight them at the ballot box and keep you options open. I hope I am wrong but I am afraid the time is coming. You know, though I have stated next year also, what transpires after the recess, may tell us the future.
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Post by Michael Downing on Aug 8, 2009 23:38:06 GMT -5
Those who keep preaching optimism and wait until we do this or that may well be the death of us all. I agree we have the frame work handed down to us from the founders to resolve our grievances but if we have finally woken up as Patriots after all these years then how long do we wait while we head down this slippery slope we are on. The very fact that the founders warned us of the over reaching power of the every Federal government that they created should be enough for us to act. Assault them at the ballot box but be ready for what the founders knew would ultimately come.
What happens this year will give us a clear indication of where we are going. What happens in 2010 will as Paul Harvey would say "Now you know the rest of the story."
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson
" And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
Thomas Jefferson
"If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained _ we must fight!" Patrick Henry
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Post by busboy on Aug 9, 2009 9:10:32 GMT -5
You will never hear (or see me type) any thoughts of giving up our Natural Rights to self-defense or our Rights to defending our Constitutional Nation. So please, no one see this as an either/or point of view.
The greatest source of Hope that I am seeing is the actions of the States. This is our only real hope, as the Federal government can only "fix" the problem by more of what caused the problem, which is more intrusive Federal government, doing what it is not authorized to do under the Constitution.
It will take the States to step up and put the central government back in its Constitutional position. The States are currently on a freight train in that direction! The items I have listed above, and others.
National Health care will be yet another motivation and inspiration of the states to buck this fascist national trend. Keep in mind this trend is not a "populace" movement, it is a minority of the people who want this, however, they happen to have the White House, Speaker and Senate Leadership.
There are many Dems who are seeking to replace both Pelosi and Reid, and they are also bucking Obama. With more heat, they can "oust" Nancy and Harry anytime they want. Also the Republicans need to buy in on this "ousting", they may actually fight it to make the Dems look even worse, as the elections approach, so they need some heat as well.
Many of these huge bills don't take effect until after the 2010 or even 2012 elections, so they can be turned back before taking effect.
Lots of room for Hope, and lots of positive motion to support this hope.
Keeping up the heat and educating our fellow Americans, that needs to be our goal.
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Post by Michael Downing on Aug 9, 2009 16:14:27 GMT -5
Busboy no arguement here that the States will be the real battle ground as we move into the future. Even if we were able to show some success at the ballot box and even if conservatives took control of the congress and ultimately the Presidency we must ever become complacent again. The years of Newt under Clinton and the years of Reagan were nothing more than a respite in moving forward the Progressive agenda. The Bush years we still moved forward. The Obama years and they are trying to move at warp speed.
If the power once again resides with the States then we can put a strangle hold on the Central Federal Government. They that have power will not give it up easliy and the Progressives have worked steadliy on their agenda for 100+ years. There will be a struggle ahead without a doubt between the Federal government and the States and depending upon which states align with the Central government and which oppose it there may be a struggle between the States. Perhaps history repeats itself....
Agreed we need to keep up the heat and education. I am not so sure we have lots of room for hope. Hope and Change is part of what got us here. I guess I can hope for change they do not expect...
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Post by 2ncrca on Aug 9, 2009 16:33:12 GMT -5
One shot fired in self defense at one of the townhall meetings could very well lead to skirmishes around the country as .gov will step up its efforts to maintain control and there will be no moving backwards from that point on.
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Post by gunner71 on Aug 16, 2009 17:41:04 GMT -5
Something to think about. Someone in this thread said that 73 of 110 state representatives in his state ran unopposed. Did his rep run unopposed? If so, is he good for the state? If not, why didn't you run against him?
Anyone can complain about their Congressman, Senators, and state legislators. But rather than complain, why not run for the office?
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Post by xxjohnadams1776 on Aug 17, 2009 11:21:02 GMT -5
It is time for stronger tactics. Please continue to recruit in your areas, we need numbers. +++1
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Post by texastsip on Aug 18, 2009 11:54:57 GMT -5
It is an unfortunate reality that our federal and state governments have insulated themselves via their own legislation, from any public retribution. As I, and many of you, are discovering, our State governments are right in line with DC. Being a native Texan, I "thought" that Texas legislators would listen to Texans while we overwhelmingly shouted 10th amendment and sovereignty legislation. Well guess what - they have not. I live in Ron Paul's district and he is the only pol that I would vote for again. But voting really gets "us" nothing, except a choice of the pre-selected "mullahs" (like in Iran). The only tool I personally see available to patriots, outside of reissuing an updated Declaration of Independence, is civil disobedience in an organized way. Gives new meaning to "community organizer", doesn't it?
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Post by Sgt Darkness on Aug 18, 2009 20:11:56 GMT -5
That's what by law the people are allowed to do, however, if it is "by law" that means it would take "lawyers" and many at that to refresh the tree. It would ultimately end up at the Supreme Court and you know how that would go. It would not only take lawyers, but lots of money. If we have any members who have "more" money than they need in a lifetime then those patriots could be a source, and then if they are willing to donate. Many of us live paycheck to paycheck and I fear in the near future that those of us in that bracket are going to suffer greatly at the expense of our new "Change". God help us and our country. Molon Labe!!!
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Post by busboy on Aug 18, 2009 23:12:42 GMT -5
The pull back on the National Health care (note I did not say the stopping of) is a prime example of Americans doing what it takes. Sadly, it had to be Grandma to do it, cause the rest of us are too pouty to do anything.
Your reps want you to feel you have no say, that is exactly why they send you the form letters, they treat you like a child. They want you to stomp off, pout, "I ain't gonna vote no more"......Yep, you sure fixed them, now the "community organizers" have just gained some more leverage.
Stronger tactics again? Really, the from the same people who stomp off and pout when they don't get a glowing letter from their reps, or their reps don't do exactly what they want? The day will never happen, as talk is even cheaper than the politicians lies.
It is the Hearts and Minds of the American People who should be your "targets", not anything else. Even if you have the perfect "representative" running for office, if the people voting don't understand what he is saying when he speaks of Liberty and Freedom, then he will not get elected.
If the Hearts and Minds of the American People are for fascism, then that is what we will get. However, the People put a huge hurt on fascism recently. And this tide is rising even more.
Sit home, wait for "stronger tactics" or join your Grandmother in kicking some real butt....
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Post by mollieb55 on Aug 23, 2009 8:36:29 GMT -5
Actually, you cannot recall a Federal Congressmen or impeach a Senator. There are provision for impeachment of every other civil officer holder in the federal government. We would have to impeach the Representatives on grounds of "high crimes and misdemeanors." I have been researching this for several months. Perjury is easy, other things come under those terms but I believe we have grounds. I need help finding where and how we file charges. I just discovered this group!
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Post by avordvet on Aug 23, 2009 9:13:08 GMT -5
Hey mollieb55 - Welcome to the struggle, dive in and lets take the fight to them... With each new member we stand a little taller and extend our reach a little further!
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Post by brocktownsend on Aug 23, 2009 9:42:35 GMT -5
Welcome!
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Post by Michael Downing on Aug 23, 2009 9:46:01 GMT -5
mollieb55 I would like second avordvet's welcome. I am not sure I trust the courts anymore than I trust the politicians. We need to keep the pressure up on the entire group. Keep them on the run with the hounds at their heels. The righteous anger shown by the People at the recess town halls will continue to grow if we keep the truth out in front of the public. Pray for the best while you prepare for the worst.
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Post by hefferman1 on Aug 23, 2009 15:25:08 GMT -5
There are definitely two trains of thought within Alarm and Muster. One is the infinitely optimistic crowd, of which I used to be a member, that endeavors to use the system to the fullest, but fails to fully admit that the deck is stacked against them, so they keep backing up towards the precipice, looking for that "line in the sand" that will not be crossed, all the while counseling others on the "limits" of ones discourse, reminding all to only work within "The System"... a "system" by the way, that has almost brought about the destruction of our country and way of life. Then you have the other side of the equation, that sees the Constitution as the framework to repair a completely broken federal government. Some will deny that the damage is that extensive, but In My Humble Opinion; refusing to accept this as fact, it is to admit to wearing self installed blinders. It is dangerous to you and the Republic to continually deny that the Executive, Legislative and Judicial are not all irreparably broken and completely unlocked from their constitutional restraints. Look at the facts; you have witnessed the politicians betrayal of the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights, You have witnessed them subjugating present and future generations with burdensome taxes... making the population financial slaves to the State, You have witnessed their unrelenting attack on the Country, the Family and the Individual, You have witnessed YOUR representatives IGNORING the WILL Of The People. If you look at this with Principles, Morals and Values (Common Sense), you cannot deny that the Federal Government is completely beyond any and all Constitutional "restriction"... They have taken over the Education System, The Financial System, The Banking System, The Transportation System and are now looking to take over the Energy System and the Health System. So in the final analysis, our situation is not that different from our founding... a burdensome and tyrannical government controlling and subjugating a population. and just as in that period, the camp was divided, but in the end, it was the "3%" that pushed the country into freedom. I believe our last chance is coming soon, enough people are awakening every day, taking a look around and saying WTF? I am heartened that more are jumping into the battle for our country and I hope we can be successful in turning this around without conflict, but as I learned in the service many years ago... ... Luck Always Favors The Prepared! I agree that there are definitely 2 trains of thought here. for those of you that are new to the board , you don't know the hell I went through when I posted my opinion on how things were going. They might have been hasty knee jerk reactions but I still feel that we are fighting a losing battle wth talk .but , I have done some soul searching and stepped back from the whole thing . the big picture became very clear to me. If we all act at once with guns and not words, we may be able to gain some ground for a while, however, we as citizens are already at a disadvantage on several levels. the powers that be have an INFINITE number of resources available. Air support, armored vehichles , tanks, ships with long range guided missiles, helicopters equiped with FLIR, RF and Radar jamming equipment, BOMBS. They have the UN forces for an unlimited supply of fresh ,Highly trained ground troops. they have an unlimited supply of weapons and ammo. we as citizens have to rely on mail order and walmart for a trickle of EXPENSIVE ammo and guns. Most of our citizenry that would actually stand and fight are not trained in guerilla warfare tactics . they , like me, have spent a few hours at a range sighting in their guns at targets that AREN'T shooting back. let the first close impact come and half of us will crap our brand new BDUs we just bought at the surplus store. if you have never been shot at you don't know how you will react. These guys won't play around to try to scare you. When faced with the option to kill someone in your crosshairs , could you? you won't know until that situation comes. It could be someone as scared as you that simply is out there to survive and do a job he/she took an oath to do regardless of who the CIC is. Look at Afghanistan . They have been fighting for decades . the people that are fighting against UN forces are much like us. they simply want their way of life observed. they are scrappy but they have limited resources. ARE YOU PREPARED TO FIGHT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE ? the GOVT will not simply roll over if we start shooting. it's not that simple. The senior officials (including the president) will simply administer from a safe location as they unleash HELL on us. right now , you can get up from your computer and get a beer and a bag of chips, watch TV then go to bed in your air conditioned home. you can drive to the store and get more chips and a pack of smokes if you want. let this come to an armed conflict and you'll be on sentry duty in a field , likely ,with nothing to eat for days and a hole to crap in and bugs for your only companion. no cell communications, no TV .nothing but you , a gun and FEAR. this can last until you get shot to death or captured and tortured by UN troops. They will capture your families and torture them . they will be ruthless. do not expect them to observe the Geneva convention or wear bright red coats and march in a straight line . once we run out of ammo we will be captured and put to death for treason. there is a very good chance that if we don't win in an armed conflict we will all die . I have guns and will defend my home with my life if it comes to it. I will stand on the lines with the rest of you IF it comes to it. But, you must realize that IF an armed conflict begins that it will not be as easy as digging in and shooting until we win. This is talk some on here may not want to hear, but it is true. They will fight dirty and mean, in fact it will get real nasty, and some will not be able to withstand it. When push comes to shove we need to be able to be as mean and nasty as they are. I've seen where people on here talked about the movie "Defiance" as an example, I have a better one "Michael Collins". We will have to form flying brigades and have a lot more than 12 apostles, but we can bring these jack booted thugs to their knees if we have the will to fight. The Greatest powers we have are our beliefs and the will to do what is needed to win. Most are not trained in guerrilla warfare, but some of us are, and we can teach the others if they will learn and pull together. Some of us have seen the elephant and we can train others to be as prepared as they can be if they will learn and pull together. Here is a semi realistic look at it and what needs to be done. westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2008/11/vanderboegh-six-apostles.htmlAdd that to what is known about guerrilla warfare and follow histories examples in men like Michael Collins and we stand a chance. Facing the powers that be in a stand up fight and we are done, without support from our troops. Be smart and prepare for what we will face today, build your closed cells and mark your enemies and friends today. Remember Rome was not built in a day, It has taken them 100 years to get to this point in being able to endanger the Constitution like they are. There will be a price, it will take time, it will take sacrafice, but we can win if we have the will to win!!!
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Post by brocktownsend on Aug 23, 2009 15:37:13 GMT -5
I agree that there are definitely 2 trains of thought here. for those of you that are new to the board , you don't know the hell I went through when I posted my opinion on how things were going. They might have been hasty knee jerk reactions but I still feel that we are fighting a losing battle wth talk .but , I have done some soul searching and stepped back from the whole thing . the big picture became very clear to me. If we all act at once with guns and not words, we may be able to gain some ground for a while, however, we as citizens are already at a disadvantage on several levels. the powers that be have an INFINITE number of resources available. Air support, armored vehichles , tanks, ships with long range guided missiles, helicopters equiped with FLIR, RF and Radar jamming equipment, BOMBS. They have the UN forces for an unlimited supply of fresh ,Highly trained ground troops. they have an unlimited supply of weapons and ammo. we as citizens have to rely on mail order and walmart for a trickle of EXPENSIVE ammo and guns. Most of our citizenry that would actually stand and fight are not trained in guerilla warfare tactics . they , like me, have spent a few hours at a range sighting in their guns at targets that AREN'T shooting back. let the first close impact come and half of us will crap our brand new BDUs we just bought at the surplus store. if you have never been shot at you don't know how you will react. These guys won't play around to try to scare you. When faced with the option to kill someone in your crosshairs , could you? you won't know until that situation comes. It could be someone as scared as you that simply is out there to survive and do a job he/she took an oath to do regardless of who the CIC is. Look at Afghanistan . They have been fighting for decades . the people that are fighting against UN forces are much like us. they simply want their way of life observed. they are scrappy but they have limited resources. ARE YOU PREPARED TO FIGHT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE ? the GOVT will not simply roll over if we start shooting. it's not that simple. The senior officials (including the president) will simply administer from a safe location as they unleash HELL on us. right now , you can get up from your computer and get a beer and a bag of chips, watch TV then go to bed in your air conditioned home. you can drive to the store and get more chips and a pack of smokes if you want. let this come to an armed conflict and you'll be on sentry duty in a field , likely ,with nothing to eat for days and a hole to crap in and bugs for your only companion. no cell communications, no TV .nothing but you , a gun and FEAR. this can last until you get shot to death or captured and tortured by UN troops. They will capture your families and torture them . they will be ruthless. do not expect them to observe the Geneva convention or wear bright red coats and march in a straight line . once we run out of ammo we will be captured and put to death for treason. there is a very good chance that if we don't win in an armed conflict we will all die . I have guns and will defend my home with my life if it comes to it. I will stand on the lines with the rest of you IF it comes to it. But, you must realize that IF an armed conflict begins that it will not be as easy as digging in and shooting until we win. This is talk some on here may not want to hear, but it is true. They will fight dirty and mean, in fact it will get real nasty, and some will not be able to withstand it. When push comes to shove we need to be able to be as mean and nasty as they are. I've seen where people on here talked about the movie "Defiance" as an example, I have a better one "Michael Collins". We will have to form flying brigades and have a lot more than 12 apostles, but we can bring these jack booted thugs to their knees if we have the will to fight. The Greatest powers we have are our beliefs and the will to do what is needed to win. Most are not trained in guerrilla warfare, but some of us are, and we can teach the others if they will learn and pull together. Some of us have seen the elephant and we can train others to be as prepared as they can be if they will learn and pull together. Here is a semi realistic look at it and what needs to be done. westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2008/11/vanderboegh-six-apostles.htmlAdd that to what is known about guerrilla warfare and follow histories examples in men like Michael Collins and we stand a chance. Facing the powers that be in a stand up fight and we are done, without support from our troops. Be smart and prepare for what we will face today, build your closed cells and mark your enemies and friends today. Remember Rome was not built in a day, It has taken them 100 years to get to this point in being able to endanger the Constitution like they are. There will be a price, it will take time, it will take sacrafice, but we can win if we have the will to win!!! Precisely, and why I mentioned the other day that the Black Flag will have to come out, because they will show us no mercy.
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Post by mollieb55 on Aug 23, 2009 17:38:19 GMT -5
Thank you all for the welcome. Some one mentioned two trains. I guess I am on both. I am willing to work through the legal system but am preparing for other means at the same time. If enough people in enough states get together to impeach their Representatives, I believe the Courts will heed the signs of the time. If not, Judges can be impeached! I am not above using the same tactics the enemy is using to achieve our goals.
I realize that we have been losing our rights since the 30's but I think we have lost more in the last 20 years than every before - especially since 2000. In 1963 while I was in college, I became convinced that the Supreme Court did not know how to read! To this day I do not understand why the public did not rise up against the government then. That is when one woman, Madeline O'Hair took prayer out of our schools.
I don't get what is so difficult to understand about "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" Praying in school is NOT establishing a state religion but NOT ALLOWING it is PROHIBITING the free exercise of it! These are not long, difficult words to understand! That Court decision alone is such a blatant violation to the Bill of Rights that it is mind-boggling that the entire Court was not impeached. I was only 19 and had that figured out. I can only conclude that our guns are more important to us than prayer or any of the other rights they have taken away!
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Post by avordvet on Aug 23, 2009 17:59:15 GMT -5
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;... I can only conclude that our guns are more important to us than prayer or any of the other rights they have taken away! Remember not to get stuck on one issue, we must move beyond that type of mind set... especially when voting. And as for your last statement about "guns" being more important, in a way they are, as the Second Amendment IS the Constitutional fail-safe that protects ALL of the other rights from a tyrannical government, never underestimate its need and power in restricting the "reach" of government, especially in light of what is happening to our country at this time in history. If the Second Amendment had never been "guaranteed" by our founders and enshrined in our Bill Of Rights, we would have already been fully enslaved by now.
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Post by 2ncrca on Aug 23, 2009 19:16:02 GMT -5
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;... I can only conclude that our guns are more important to us than prayer or any of the other rights they have taken away! Remember not to get stuck on one issue, we must move beyond that type of mind set... especially when voting. And as for your last statement about "guns" being more important, in a way they are, as the Second Amendment IS the Constitutional fail-safe that protects ALL of the other rights from a tyrannical government, never underestimate its need and power in restricting the "reach" of government, especially in light of what is happening to our country at this time in history. If the Second Amendment had never been "guaranteed" by our founders and enshrined in our Bill Of Rights, we would have already been fully enslaved by now. I would really hope that we can settle the contest without the need for arms. Slim chance, in my opinion, but let's hope.
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Post by trap115 on Aug 23, 2009 19:25:45 GMT -5
I hope for the same , but I will go with( hope for the best prepare for the worst)
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Post by brocktownsend on Aug 23, 2009 19:30:27 GMT -5
Remember not to get stuck on one issue, we must move beyond that type of mind set... especially when voting. And as for your last statement about "guns" being more important, in a way they are, as the Second Amendment IS the Constitutional fail-safe that protects ALL of the other rights from a tyrannical government, never underestimate its need and power in restricting the "reach" of government, especially in light of what is happening to our country at this time in history. If the Second Amendment had never been "guaranteed" by our founders and enshrined in our Bill Of Rights, we would have already been fully enslaved by now. I would really hope that we can settle the contest without the need for arms. Slim chance, in my opinion, but let's hope. I tend to agree, but if the polls keep going down, they would be *foolish not to back off, and attempt it at another time. Latest: Up to a 20 seat loss in the House; Hussein at minus 10, (Rasmussen), and 46% favorable, Healthcare without public option, only 36% approve. *Not to say they might not attempt it anyway.
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Post by avordvet on Aug 24, 2009 4:48:49 GMT -5
I concur with Brock, everything in me says they would never push forward such an agenda with the populace so fully entrenched against them...
... but then again I initially had the same feeling about the TARP, the Bailouts and private company takeovers... So as of now, preparations continue.
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Post by trap115 on Aug 24, 2009 6:13:00 GMT -5
yep .lots of things went the other way than I thought it would.you never can be to sure
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Post by Mr. Smith on Aug 26, 2009 23:39:50 GMT -5
I agree, Its time for stronger tactics. But what tactics should be used? We know who the enemy is but how do we stop them. Or do we really know the enemy? Glenn Beck has put names and faces to many of them this week. But who is supporting them? (I hope everyone is watching.) But who else knows the enemy. Perhaps the Pentogone, the CIA, The US Army and the Marines. We know by now nearlly all of congress votes are bought and paid for so maybe we should start calling these Military Offices with our Concers, filling reports of treson, and malious behavor. Call on them to hold up their oaths to fight all enemies forign and domestic. Perhaps they already have a plan and waiting for the the right time or complete evedance. If that doesent work then as a last resort American Citizens will have to form an army to SOS. It will have to be in the numbers that will attend Tea Parties on Sept 12th.
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Post by Bowhunter on Aug 27, 2009 11:12:52 GMT -5
We need to keep up the preassure - raise our voices and our fists - start your own liberty tree in your community
come at them with our grievances and demands from every direction!
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Post by Echo5Alpha on Aug 28, 2009 14:28:50 GMT -5
Something to think about. Someone in this thread said that 73 of 110 state representatives in his state ran unopposed. Did his rep run unopposed? If so, is he good for the state? If not, why didn't you run against him? Anyone can complain about their Congressman, Senators, and state legislators. But rather than complain, why not run for the office? Not everyone is suited for office. In today's political climate, I can't really even fault those who are particularly well suited for office, in their refusal to inflict it upon themselves and their families. Besides, you don't have to hold the office to influence the office.
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Post by Michael Downing on Aug 28, 2009 20:38:28 GMT -5
My opinion is that we need to keep the pressure on especially after the recess. Do I think we will turn the tide? Hell no. I heard today the Senator Burr is considering supporting Co-Op's in place of a public option and I hope I heard wrong. I fired off an email to his office to clarify his position. I do not think they will back off. They are looking at the total end agme and are/were hoping that the Obama admiration would carry it through. It will not happen to their original game plan and that will make them more desperate. I still expect a major push in the face of the american Public becuase they know if they do not succeed thent hey can always go back to the whittle away and wait agenda. Until they are pushed back under the rock they crawled out from under they will not back down.
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Post by avordvet on Aug 29, 2009 7:52:19 GMT -5
I concur, keep the pressure boiling on the Reps. Talk to your family, friends and acquaintances. When the Reps return, have your emails/letters/calls ready to blast them.
Rallies and protest are continuing all across the country, the Leftist/Statist/Communist/Marxist agenda is getting thrown back in their faces. Keep your eyes open and your ears to the ground, back down from this fight and you might be fighting in a way you do not want.
Preparations continue... just in case.
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Post by NCFREEDOM on Sept 2, 2009 6:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by NCFREEDOM on Sept 2, 2009 6:49:18 GMT -5
Great poem by my brother.....
Sound the Trumpet, Ring the Bell Written by Taylor Ruble Sound the Trumpet
Ring the Bell
To signal the Militiamen
to bring 'em hell.
To arms! To arms!
The time is near
To leave our families
a week, a month, a year.
Through heat and cold
and blood and pain
Free men fight
to end the tyrants' reign.
The Patriot shines
Liberty's great beckon
and Marmons power
is frail and weakened.
And in the end
the dark houses bow
To the new Republic
its seed sown now.
With gallant hearts
and focused mind
They mend with sacrifice
that contract signed.
Sound the Trumpet
Ring the Bell
To remember the militiamen
who stood and fell.
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