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Post by brocktownsend on Feb 20, 2012 12:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Downing on Feb 20, 2012 19:30:06 GMT -5
I remember Keene from years ago as my sister went to college there. I cannot imagine why the police in s small NH town would need such a vehicle. As to the Free Staters referred to in the article as radicals well the ones I have been in contact with seem like freedom minded individuals to me. I actually at one point considered moving back to NH where I grew up because of that group and contacts I had made in another patriot group there. Decided NC was where I was suppose to be. If Keene decides to not take the Bearcat I do have a place to park it here...
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Post by brocktownsend on Feb 20, 2012 19:43:34 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Feb 21, 2012 6:09:29 GMT -5
Gets it down to the basics... "The last thing they need is this big piece of military equipment to make them think they're soldiers." - Mike Clark
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Post by Cujo on Feb 21, 2012 7:50:01 GMT -5
Gets it down to the basics... "The last thing they need is this big piece of military equipment to make them think they're soldiers." - Mike Clark
Unless our true & faithful to the Constitution Government is prepping our local law enforcement for an invasion from millions of Chinese they do not need military weaponry to be used against the people they swore to protect.
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Post by hefferman1 on Feb 21, 2012 9:03:04 GMT -5
I guess I thought differently on this issue.
First thing to do in an emergency would be go take the Police Tank.
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Post by Michael Downing on Feb 21, 2012 9:07:38 GMT -5
They protect the system not the people. The people must as always be prepared to protect themselves. As a friend in law enforcement said while teaching the concealed carry class my wife and I took, " Policemen do not wear guns to protect you, they wear guns to themselves." There has been a move to militaize our police forces going on for some time now and it reminds me of the words of Patrick Henry. Just replace the words kings with tyrannts and Great Britain with our own government
"These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings (tyrannts) resort. I ask, gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain (our own government) any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other."
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Post by avordvet on Feb 21, 2012 11:27:11 GMT -5
I guess I thought differently on this issue. First thing to do in an emergency would be go take the Police Tank. When I first started seeing the outright militarization of civilian Law Enforcement, I have campaigned heavily against it ever since. But I have also come to realize a good "side benefit"... The high grade hardware is no longer surrounded by a heavily armed and "lethally" trained military force. The military grade firearms and equipment are now closer to the citizens who paid for it, and who may now more easily obtain and use said equipment in an emergency without having to engage "federal" forces.
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Post by Sedition on Feb 21, 2012 18:03:51 GMT -5
Militarizing the police force is a convenient way to bypass the posse comatatus act. It's gonna come back and bite them in the butt eventually.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 22, 2012 5:10:01 GMT -5
Militarizing the police force is a convenient way to bypass the posse comatatus act. It's gonna come back and bite them in the butt eventually. You just grabbed the golden ring! That is one thing I have never said on this forum, even though I have firmly believed it for many years. Although I have alluded to it, I have heard very few other people connect the dots, but now that the civilian "Forces" have grown so strong, so rapidly, it is glaring. The "Federalization" of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies is absolutely the way around Posse Comitatus, and its working fantastically. Able to work where the military can't, supplied with military grade weaponry and equipment, many are either trained by the military or were members of it - with a good slice that are combat vets. Therefor the use of the military weapons and military tactics are second nature. The Feds have been working on this since the "War On Drugs" kicked off and they saw the negative visual impact of federal forces on the populace (Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.). So with the bounty of funds the WOD brought forward, they started arming and "assisting" Civilian Law Enforcement departments and agencies... Now, the Feds very rarely have to put a boot to a door, as the locals are more than willing to "earn their tactical bones". With the populace now growing weary of the "WOD" toll, the emphasis is moving to the "WOT" and "counter-terrorism"... Just closing one checkbook account and opening another. The founders feared a standing "army" for a reason. SWAT Team Mania: The War Against the American Citizenlewrockwell.com/whitehead/whitehead32.1.html
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Post by midnightrider on Feb 22, 2012 7:06:18 GMT -5
Reading these, and then reading about some Sheriffs uniting against Federal power, I have to wonder where they,(the sheriffs) really stand. On one hand they oppose the Feds intrusion,and on the other hand they accept there $ and weaponry and mandates. If I have learned anything from the last few years is this, IF YOU TAKE THE MONEY (IE ARMS,CASH) YOU ARE BEHOLDEN TO THEM! here in MI TPTB took the $ and are now beholden to the FEDS for mandating healthcare. WTP are fighting it, but time will tell. If you ride the fence, there are sure to be slivers!
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Post by avordvet on Feb 22, 2012 13:48:26 GMT -5
If you ride the fence, there are sure to be slivers! Couldn't have said it better.
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Post by midnightrider on Feb 23, 2012 8:59:51 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Feb 23, 2012 14:26:26 GMT -5
Good find, sent on to my network.
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