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Post by avordvet on Feb 7, 2012 5:15:40 GMT -5
Pot calling the kettle black... Nothing but further prepping of the battle-space. FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremistsBy Patrick Temple-West. Mon, Feb 06 19:21 PM EST WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday. These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference. mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE81600V20120207?irpc=932
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Post by hefferman1 on Feb 7, 2012 9:43:09 GMT -5
Why would the government think we are a threat?
Could it be that they have been abusing the American people for years and the people are now tired of it?
In some ways America is like a abusive family. The government like an abusive father just does what he wants, till the children grow up enough to stand up to him. Last time it happened was in the 1860's, we played by the father's rules and lost. We are getting close to that time again, and this time we will make the rules, so we do not lose.
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Post by Michael Downing on Feb 7, 2012 11:34:48 GMT -5
We are more divided today than we were in 1860 and there is a continued effort to keep us divided and to widen that divide. Black against white, conservative against liberal, the haves against the have nots. This is being done by design as they apply divide and conquer. Define your enemy as a threat to the "public welfare" and demonize them in every way possible. Paint them with a broad brush as crazy, outside the norm and part of the lunatic fringe so few will identify with them and few will give them aid. Make the public not only doubt them but fear them and then when you begin to crush them you will be applauded for protecting the "public welfare".
This is why you must be active in your church and your neighborhood. be charitable in your dealings with those who deserve charity. Do not hide your views but present them rationally and calmly. This will not keep you from being demonized or at some point persecuted by the PTB but there will be those around you who will not believe the lies and propaganda they spread about you. At least there will be doubt...
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Post by aronatbc on Feb 7, 2012 13:51:00 GMT -5
I'm not willing to take Reuters word for anything. If someone can get their hands on the actual memo the FBI is circulating, that would tell us a ton.
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Post by Michael Downing on Feb 7, 2012 19:14:45 GMT -5
I will have to admit that Glenn beck did a good job tonight on his show. He started with this premise and then compared the potential sovereign citizen threat to the threats posed by occupy wall street and illegal aliens and compared the number of related arrests with each. He also covered the possible threats from religious groups, pro life groups, constitutionalists and all the others listed by DHS. He then shifted to the border and did an excellent job with many graphic pictures of violence on both sides of the border including sites of fires set along the border. He tied the border violence in not only with drugs but more importantly Iran and other nations who support terrorism. He was joined by a retired border agent who spent 26 years on the southern border. He pointed out that that only in the recent past have they seen a transition to beheading, dismemberment and skinning which is more reminiscent of middle eastern terrorism than it is of the typical murders of the drug cartels of the past. No that there have not always been executions but they were more typically like mob style executions in the past. He also tied it in historically where Mexico had been used in the past during WWI and WWII as a launching place for Germany to attack the US.
I have not always been a big fan of Glenn's but leaving Fox and going to the internet ahs definitely allowed him more freedom to go places the main stream media will not go including Fox. The follow up by Blaze News on line was also good.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 8, 2012 4:44:54 GMT -5
That was one of his goals when he left, to show what the MSM will not... the "unpixilated" truth.
Make no bones about it, he has awoken MILLIONS to the danger and helped them to prepare for the coming storm... Definite candidate for the "Restoration" Hall of Fame, should we make it that far.
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Post by midnightrider on Feb 8, 2012 8:17:13 GMT -5
It is my believe that although he puts out a lot of info, in your face info, he is still a bit restrained when it comes to self defense. I have watched him for a long time and believe he will even get to that. Although carefully.
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Post by brocktownsend on Feb 8, 2012 13:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Feb 8, 2012 14:41:34 GMT -5
It is my believe that although he puts out a lot of info, in your face info, he is still a bit restrained when it comes to self defense. I have watched him for a long time and believe he will even get to that. Although carefully. I wouldn't even guess at the amount of death threats he gets daily, and why he has a fairly large security team. I agree, he is all Gandhi right now, Although I don't think Ghandi owned a crap load of weapons... but I think if push comes to shove, he would step out and do what needs to be done.
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Post by Michael Downing on Feb 8, 2012 20:30:03 GMT -5
Moving to Texas was a survival move for him versus staying in NY. I have an annual subscription to GBTV but listen in as much as I once did because of work schedule. Glenn has stressed being prepared and security being a big part of that including firearms but with proper training.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 9, 2012 6:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Downing on Feb 9, 2012 9:48:10 GMT -5
Income taxes??? I love income taxes. I wish I could pay more income taxes. I'll bet my secretary pays less income tax than I do. Wait I don't have a secretary. Never mind I hate paying my income taxes. I always felt that I didn't mind paying my fair share until I finally realized my fair share was never going to be fair enough for the idiots who tho waste my money and have the audacity tot hink they can do more good with it and spend it more wisely than I could. I am not anti government and I am not necessarliy ati tax but I am anti big centralized government and I do believe that government has no right to tax me. If that makes me extreme then extreme I am...
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