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Post by safetalker on Jun 7, 2011 15:55:55 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 7, 2011 17:07:27 GMT -5
They need to remember what happened the last time someone tried to take American's guns.
I wish them the same luck as King George had.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 7, 2011 19:11:49 GMT -5
What, exactly, does the intended agreement entail?
While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to:
Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership.
Confiscate and destroy all “unauthorized” civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course).
Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp).
Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation.
In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.
Disseminated to my network...
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Post by Michael Downing on Jun 7, 2011 19:46:47 GMT -5
Queen Hillary has been shepherding this for the US. Do not ever think the PTB have given up on being able to disarm the citizens. What part of shall not be infringed do you not understand?
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Post by Cujo on Jun 7, 2011 20:03:15 GMT -5
No comment other than, I'll adide by my Oath. No tuff talk here I will do what our elected officials should have done, protect the Constitution.
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Post by jimbravo on Jun 8, 2011 2:32:46 GMT -5
I wonder who is planning on enforcing this? Dead men walking.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 8, 2011 3:51:39 GMT -5
I wonder who is planning on enforcing this? Dead men walking. Attachments:
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Post by aronatbc on Jun 8, 2011 7:33:43 GMT -5
This will not end well for them should they try this.
Let's hope they understand that.
Nothing can protect them.
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Post by midnightrider on Jun 8, 2011 8:14:09 GMT -5
"shall not be infringed" Defined= "If you try to take our firearms we will kill you." Mike Vanderboegh
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Post by safetalker on Jun 8, 2011 10:46:35 GMT -5
Whether they succeed or fail is of little consequence to a dead man. Today is the time to begin caching our weapons. We have no use for them now. They will issue a Presidential Proclamation directing the action. There will be a short (probably 2 months) for "VOLUNTARY" compliance. Then they will pull up all of the permits for concealed Carry permits, PI Permits, and Gun Store FFL sales for last 3 years. These will include Internet ammo and reloading supplies. Everyone on this list will receive a signed order to comply of go to jail. This will cause people to start turning in who they sold, gave, or lent their purchased items to. This will be followed by money for guns reward posters to get your friends, neighbors , and families to turn you if you have weapons in for the reward. Lastly will come block by block teams of searchers (probable 6 months after the order) where you and your home is searched for guns. These will be associated with Air sonar and magnetic search by choppers for where you hid them. Thus "NOW is the time to cache' your backup supplies. We all know that the thugs and criminals will get them anyhow to rob our homes. Thus the time is now to can some ammo with the beans, and dry the ak with some jerky. Many families have two or more rifles and can well afford one to be out of service. The sight of all those boxes of ammo does quiet the soul, but perhaps to ready is to easy to confiscate. I will begin to research an article I had two years ago on this will update here when I find it.
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 8, 2011 10:58:33 GMT -5
Whether they succeed or fail is of little consequence to a dead man. Today is the time to begin caching our weapons. We have no use for them now. They will issue a Presidential Proclamation directing the action. There will be a short (probably 2 months) for "VOLUNTARY" compliance. Then they will pull up all of the permits for concealed Carry permits, PI Permits, and Gun Store FFL sales for last 3 years. These will include Internet ammo and reloading supplies. Everyone on this list will receive a signed order to comply of go to jail. This will cause people to start turning in who they sold, gave, or lent their purchased items to. This will be followed by money for guns reward posters to get your friends, neighbors , and families to turn you if you have weapons in for the reward. Lastly will come block by block teams of searchers (probable 6 months after the order) where you and your home is searched for guns. These will be associated with Air sonar and magnetic search by choppers for where you hid them. Thus "NOW is the time to cache' your backup supplies. We all know that the thugs and criminals will get them anyhow to rob our homes. Thus the time is now to can some ammo with the beans, and dry the ak with some jerky. Many families have two or more rifles and can well afford one to be out of service. The sight of all those boxes of ammo does quiet the soul, but perhaps to ready is to easy to confiscate. I will begin to research an article I had two years ago on this will update here when I find it. Or the second they declare it, everyone who would will march on Washington and take the country back, or go down fighting. I'm willing to bet we win the first round and ensure a Republic at least for a short time.
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Post by aronatbc on Jun 8, 2011 12:04:51 GMT -5
Or the second they declare it, everyone who would will march on Washington and take the country back, or go down fighting. I'm willing to bet we win the first round and ensure a Republic at least for a short time. You march on Washington DC and the distributed Federal forces in the various States will cut you to ribbons from the flanks. "Think global, act local". Cut the chain of command at it's weakest link. The middle-man administrators in each State who give the Storm Troopers their marching orders. Then you can worry about cutting the head off the snake.
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Post by Cujo on Jun 8, 2011 12:42:35 GMT -5
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Post by Sedition on Jun 8, 2011 12:52:22 GMT -5
I would not care to be a government worker of ANY kind should they attempt this. And to put it simply...they can eat my a$$ with a spoon if they even daydream that I'll comply.
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Post by safetalker on Jun 8, 2011 12:54:43 GMT -5
Problem with a move on Washington is that there is nothing there. The Federal Reserve is in New York. The CIA is in Bolder Co. The Justice Dept is in Virginia. The POTUS is on Vacation In Rio every time things get dicey. Biden is in Norad or Ft Deitrick MD. The folks left behind is just folks like you and I waiting for Miller Time to start so they can go get in the Underground train to home before the game starts on ESPN. Now the 173rd Infantry Brigade is in Washington and all around it if you just have to kill yourself they will gladly accommodate you. However they are guy and gals just like you and I. Hoping no crazies will make them kill anyone.
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Post by jimbravo on Jun 8, 2011 21:30:10 GMT -5
Or the second they declare it, everyone who would will march on Washington and take the country back, or go down fighting. I'm willing to bet we win the first round and ensure a Republic at least for a short time. You march on Washington DC and the distributed Federal forces in the various States will cut you to ribbons from the flanks. "Think global, act local". Cut the chain of command at it's weakest link. The middle-man administrators in each State who give the Storm Troopers their marching orders. Then you can worry about cutting the head off the snake. I would presume some states and counties would not stand for this.
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 9, 2011 7:15:33 GMT -5
Or the second they declare it, everyone who would will march on Washington and take the country back, or go down fighting. I'm willing to bet we win the first round and ensure a Republic at least for a short time. You march on Washington DC and the distributed Federal forces in the various States will cut you to ribbons from the flanks. "Think global, act local". Cut the chain of command at it's weakest link. The middle-man administrators in each State who give the Storm Troopers their marching orders. Then you can worry about cutting the head off the snake. If it was a UN mandate more than half the troops would join with the people. Every military personal in the combat arms field hates the UN,because they get people killed for no good reasons. If you want support for the UN look at REMFs and people on General's Staff. If the UN just declared an UN mandate that took away American's 2nd Amendment Rights not only the people, but the men and women in the military would be up in arms. Most of the people I knew in the military hunted, and owned rifles and pistols of their own. I suspect the military would refuse orders from officers supporting this, or arrest them for treason. The men and women in the military believe in the Oath to protect and defend the Constitution. A march on Washington would remove the thugocracy that would support such a move. As for going after local officials, it would be a if they supported this yes, if not then no type of position.
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Post by safetalker on Jun 9, 2011 18:38:02 GMT -5
Perhaps you haven't noticed! With the exception of one brigade combat team assigned to Northcom and one Brigade assigned to protect Washington DC our "Troops" are out of the country. When the grab comes it will be supported by the new 30,000 person Civilian Security Forces. If it gets dicey the 40,000 or more UN Soldiers "Training here" will be called to action in support of the 1996 treaty King George the 1st signed with the UN for in case the people of the United states rioted and attempted to overthrow the government. More likely the use of riots in major cities and an "Al Queida" attack will be used to cover th action until it is full strength and then it will be too late.
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Post by aronatbc on Jun 9, 2011 18:42:03 GMT -5
70,000 vs 100 million gun owners. I like those odds...
Even if it's 2 million cops plus that 70,000 vs just us hardliner III%-ers... We'd still be 2.07M Vs 3M.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 20:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by safetalker on Jun 9, 2011 20:54:25 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jun 10, 2011 4:01:56 GMT -5
Snopes is a decent fact/background checker, but just like the "media" you have to be able to sort through the chaff. Don't know if it still is, but was run by a lefty.... so just like NPR, good info is there, you just have to be knowledgeable enough to learn the language... as most of us here, are.
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Post by aronatbc on Jun 10, 2011 7:27:35 GMT -5
Yep... Just like Wikipedia, you have to be careful of the Snopes stuff. Some good facts there, but a few Left-leaning ideological articles have been noted over the years.
The UN has been after this treaty for years. Most recently, Zero has remarked that he approved of it and would sign off on it. It doesn't have a hope in hell of being ratified in this Congress, but things change.
It is a dangerous notion. One which should be resoundingly denounced at every occasion.
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