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Post by avordvet on Jan 4, 2016 4:43:15 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jan 4, 2016 6:26:47 GMT -5
Full Story on What’s Going on In Oregon – Militia Take Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge In Protest to Hammond Family Persecution…Posted on January 3, 2016, by sundance Many people will awaken today to the news of approximately 100 to 150 armed militia taking control of a closed Wildlife Park Headquarters, and not know the full back-story – so here it is: The short summary is: in an effort to draw attention to a ridiculous arrest of a father and son pair of Oregon Ranchers (“Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond, 46,) who are scheduled to begin five year prison sentences (turning themselves in tomorrow January 4th 2016), three brothers from the Cliven Bundy family and approximately 100/150 (and growing) heavily armed militia (former U.S. service members) have taken control of Malheur Wildlife Refuge Headquarters in the wildlife reserve. They are prepared to stay there indefinitely. theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
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Post by avordvet on Jan 5, 2016 5:12:51 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 5, 2016 7:58:19 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jan 6, 2016 14:51:17 GMT -5
That's one thing .Gov is gonna keep running into, especially with former military/LE guys... Many of us do not fear death. Having seen death close up and having been very close to it myself numerous times, I don't fear it. Not saying I have a death wish or anything like that, but I have zero fear of what will come to all of us in the end. These days the old addage is as relevant as ever: I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. So make what time you have left count by living your life with Honor and Courage. Oregon Occupier LaVoy Finicum Warns FBI He'd Take Death Over JailJan 6 2016, 7:47 am ET, by Tony Dokoupil One of the armed protesters occupying a federal wildlife refuge in rural Oregon said he would rather die defending the building than be arrested by the FBI. www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-occupier-lavoy-finicum-warns-fbi-he-d-take-death-n491056 |
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Post by avordvet on Jan 6, 2016 15:03:13 GMT -5
“It’s a Trap” – or – Comment on the Malheur ProtestPosted by Max Velocity in Uncategorized on January 6, 2016 Stop being good little Germans, good little comrades, and use your moral compass to understand what is right, what is true, and what is just. If we all lived our lives on those principles and stood up, without fear of the left, there would be no problem. To the left, to the moonbats, you are always a right wing extremist, and terrorist. Nothing you do in defense of liberty will be right. You will never be anything else. www.maxvelocitytactical.com/2016/01/its-a-trap-or-comment-on-the-malheur-protest/
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 6, 2016 19:02:39 GMT -5
ncrenegade.com/editorial/deviciveness-deception-and-pervasive-inaction/Divisiveness, Deception, and Pervasive InactionIn going about the blogosphere these last few days, I am rather put off at the number of commentators who are speaking ill of the group who has settled themselves in to act in protest at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. How many actually understand the facts, not the least of which being that both the Bundy’s and the Hammonds have been agregiously abused, for years on end, by a federal agency (BLM) which doesn’t even have Constitutional authority for it’s existence. In addition to exhibiting a profound failure to comprehend the facts in the matter, these heaviliy opinionated individuals are accusing the group at Malheur with every manner of imagined offense – everything from being “agents provacateur” for the regime, to malfeasance in planning and preparing this action, to being suicidal glory-seekers who care not for the “harm” they will cause the Liberty Movement. And yet, I can assert with a reasonable level of confidence that, most of those chiding the Malheur group the loudest are also those who have never, and likely will never leave the porch, regardless of how onerous and abusive the tyranny of an unchained Fed.Gov becomes. Yes. I’m calling them a bunch of blowhards, naysayers, and bullshitters. And further, I’m making the accusation that most of them are far more concerned with their perceived “prominence” in the on-line Liberty Community, than they are with actually defending liberty. And in some cases, they are intentionally ‘pissing in the pool’ to sow discord, distrust, and enflame the ever present parochial rivalries between the followers and supporters of various online forums. This calumny in which they engage is as worthy of hanging, as that of the leftists who aspire to our destruction. For what does it matter, whether destruction come from within or without; it still must be answered the same… I’ve published a lot of commentary, here and elsewhere, because I beleived it was important to educate, to share information, and yes even to rile folks up and urge them to shake off their lethargy and take up the burdens of defending our liberty and our way of life. But the fact is, that I’ve done more in meat-space than I have online, to contribute to liberty’s preservation. Those who know me personally will attest to that, without question. In truth I beleive that, absent my real efforts in the real world to be prepared, and to assist others in doing the same, I would not be justified in making many of the statements which I have online. It’s a moral precept which I’ve held my entire adult life, that a persons words are never more trustworthy than their actions. And what, exactly, does that say about the people in the III Community who have never gone out and done anything? Of what value are their opinions? In all seriousness, ask yourself – aside from banging on a keyboard, what have you **done** for liberty? Because liberty’s continued existence is not dependent upon how many words you’ve written on a blog, nor how many hits your page receives each month. What it **IS** dependent upon is real men, taking action in the real world. Real risks have to be faced, and real work has to be done. So, man up and do at least a bit of it. Otherwise, liberty is a fad which has passed; a bit of stale history fit to join the Edsel and the Sharps rifle in the annals of history. Time is short. Whether any of us “likes” the situation at the Malheur compound, it is *REAL*. And it will have consequences. But those consequences were coming anyway. It’s been years now in which the only remaining question (at least in my mind) has been the particulars of the event which will ignite the comming conflict – and who are we, to question those particulars when finally they arrive? Therefore, attempting to assign blame to the men at Malheur is pointless, and detrimental to our cause, when our efforts should be directed forward, planning and preparing for the *next* even in the Liberty Games, not armchair quarterbacking that which is already done. As I have elsewhere stated recently, it’s about momentum. The team that can’t maintain momentum and cohesion, looses. Period. So let the men at Malheur do what they’re doing, and be grateful that they have contributed somethign real to the effort. Meanwhile, be looking for a way that you can contribute something real and substantial… Otherwise, you’re just another among a wide field of blowhards, naysayers, and bullshitters – a group whose support and allegiance I have no interest in preserving …because half of nothing, ist still NOTHING. Et nunc, recedere.
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 6, 2016 19:41:42 GMT -5
westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/01/06/malheur-another-perspective/Malheur: Another PerspectiveOk …Everybody… please gather around and listen to what I am about to say..Then either shut your mouth, or share this far and wide. If you have ANY faith in me as a leader you will heed what I am about to say. If not..I want nothing to do with you. simple as that. The key to victory in any battle is the ability to remain calm in any given situation. What we are seeing right now is a whole bunch of people acting based solely on raw emotion. This is very bad and I’m about to explain exactly why. I am not letting my emotions make my decisions for me, but instead, looking at this from a calm, level headed, common sense approach. What you are all witnessing right now right now in Oregon has the makings of a full on false flag event. And I will prove that to you to the absolute best of my ability. Should you choose to look at this from a logical perspective you will see I am 100% correct. Some of what I will tell you is speculation based on my own experience and experiences of others I have talked to throughout this ordeal, but most of what I am going to tell you is documented verifiable fact... Concludes: But we can still snatch victory out of this whole screwed up mess…if ONLY you will listen to me. How do we win then? Well I’ll tell you… We get those people out of there!!!!! Anyone and everyone who has contact with the people there needs to PLEAD with them to get the hell out of there… Then, we regroup, and WE pick the time and place of our fight…not the enemy. WE make THEM react.. WE pick ground that is most sensible for a proper defense, not a building in the middle of a field that has absolutely NO defensible positions as in the case of the refuge. Then we properly equip, plan, rehearse, and execute. If you want to win a war…that’s how you have to do it. Most importantly.. we expose frauds like Cooper and Payne for who they truly are. and drum them out of the movement before they really get someone killed. So that my take on this mess… listen to me if you want, ignore me at your own peril… either way it is of no consequence to me. I will not debate this issue, and NO ONE will change my mind about this… I have done too much research into this situation to allow ANY armchair commando to dictate my actions for me. This is the war you all wanted so badly… now either lead follow or get the fuck out of the way. End of story. (please note this post has been edited to provide more factual evidence to include mention of Delta at Waco.)
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 6, 2016 23:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jan 7, 2016 5:13:26 GMT -5
Damned well laid out charges, after reading the timeline and players, I tend to agree, they should disengage immediately. I thought Payne had been ostracised from the Patriot movement after the bundy events. |
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Post by avordvet on Jan 7, 2016 5:44:14 GMT -5
EXCLUSIVE: Stolen valor: The militiaman bodyguard of ranchers Cliven and Ammon Bundy is falsely posing as a US Marine who served in Afghanistan and Iraq Brian Cavalier, 44, the personal bodyguard of Cliven and Ammon Bundy, openly boasted that he is retired Marine But US Marine Corps records prove the big-bellied braggart never served and is in fact a tattoo artist with a long rap sheet for DUI Cavalier is a key figure in the armed militia takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon orchestrated by the Bundys He wears military style garb including a shemagh scarf often worn by soldiers serving in the Middle East, and has the code name 'Fluffy Unicorn' 'That's unfortunate,' Cavalier said when Daily Mail Online confronted him over his Marine fabrication By Ryan Parry West Coast Correspondent At Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Near Burns, Oregon For Dailymail.com Published: 14:01 EST, 6 January 2016 | Updated: 16:47 EST, 6 January 2016 www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387117/Stolen-valor-Militiaman-bodyguard-ranchers-Cliven-Ammon-Bundy-posing-retired-Marine-served-Afghanistan-Iraq-boost-combat-credentials.html
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Post by avordvet on Jan 7, 2016 12:53:12 GMT -5
With the spotlight on the Scumbag obamite Oregon US Atty railroading the Hammonds, she quits and scurries off into the darkness like the POS oath breaking cockroach she is...
Oregon U.S. Attorney Amanda Marshall resigns amid internal review, cites health issuesBy Bryan Denson, April 24, 2015 at 8:10 PM, updated April 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM Amanda Marshall, the U.S. Attorney for Oregon, gave notice Friday that she was resigning from office May 15 and acknowledged to her staff that health issues had affected her work. www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/04/oregon_us_attorney_amanda_mars.html |
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Post by avordvet on Jan 7, 2016 14:10:06 GMT -5
Experts: Oregon standoff may be small, but it’s just the tip of a growing militia icebergMilitias are growing at a rapid rate, new report saysJanuary 6, 2016 3:29 PM, By Judy L. Thomas The militia movement, they say, is in the midst of a massive growth spurt at levels even greater than in the early 1990s after the Waco, Texas, standoff and the siege at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. It peaked after the Oklahoma City bombing. “It’s bigger than anything we’ve seen before,” said Leonard Zeskind, president of the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights. “And it’s not simply a resurgence of the ’90s militia movement; it’s different in many ways. Now it’s much broader.” www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article53351000.html
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 7, 2016 21:15:32 GMT -5
I have said it before, Chose carefully just which hill you are willing to die on. Good advice I was once given by the Chaplain the group I belonged to at the time and advice Ammon Bundy should follow in my as always humble opinion. h/t WRSA who commented, There is a very fine line between tough and stupid. www.rt.com/usa/328231-oregon-militia-bundy-sheriff-standoff/Leader of armed Oregon militia rejects county sheriff offer to end standoff The Harney County Sheriff met with the leader of the armed militia to ask them to leave the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon it has occupied since Saturday. Reuters reported that Ammon Bundy rejected the Sheriff’s offer. The sheriff, David Wade, met with Bundy on Thursday to offer them passage on the condition that they vacate Oregon. Bundy declined the offer, telling reporters, “we always consider what people say.” This meeting was an attempt on the Sheriff’s Office behalf to end the situation peacefully. According to Oregon Live, the sheriff told Bundy that he was, “here to offer safe escort out.” The meeting follows Wednesday’s town hall meeting that drew roughly 400 people. The county has announced plans to meet with the group on Friday. Meanwhile, Oregon Governor Kate Brown released a statement on Thursday decrying the activities of Bundy’s militia and ordering the group to “decamp immediately and be held accountable.” She called the occupation a part of “tactics we Oregonians don’t agree with.” The camp was created in an effort to protest the sentencing of two Oregonian farmers, Dwight and Steve Hammond. The two men were found guilty of arson when they started a fire to clear their property that spread to federal lands. |
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Post by avordvet on Jan 9, 2016 7:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jan 11, 2016 5:28:56 GMT -5
Another Unbelievable Update: Why Does Harney County Sheriff David Ward Want Hammond Family Story Hidden?…Posted on January 10, 2016, by sundance Sheriff Ward took a highly adversarial position to the plight of the Hammonds, and continues to make a loud call for Aamon Bundy to step-down and discontinue the ongoing protest at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. By all accounts Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward wants this story out of public visibility ASAP. We might have just discovered why. Sheriff David Ward formerly worked for the Federal Bureau of Land Management and appears to have actually been a witness against the Hammond family in the ridiculous federal terrorism trial back in 2012. theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/10/another-unbelievable-update-why-does-harney-county-sheriff-david-ward-want-hammond-family-story-hidden/
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 11, 2016 17:13:05 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jan 11, 2016 18:01:07 GMT -5
Saw that, cracked me up...
FBI: We need you guys to move across the road.
III: No, thats not gonna work for us.
They set the tone from the start, and it only got better after that.
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 11, 2016 19:58:46 GMT -5
ncrenegade.com/editorial/in-latest-escalation-oregon-militia-tears-down-government-fence-demands-freedom-for-ranchers/In The Latest Escalation, Oregon Militia Tears Down Government Fence, Demands Freedom For RanchersLast week, Ammon Bundy met Harney County Sheriff David Ward on the side of Lava Bed Road near Highway 78. Ward was attempting to negotiate a peaceful end to the protracted standoff that began two Saturdays ago when Bundy and a handful of armed militiamen “seized” a remote bird sanctuary in Oregon. Bundy and his followers decided to occupy the federal building as a show of solidarity with Dwight Hammond and his son Steven who were sent back to jail last week in connection with fires they set back in 2001 and 2006. Bundy’s militia - who now call themselves the “Citizens for Constitutional Freedom” - say they are standing up for state’s rights in a kind of ad hoc, haphazard rekindling of the Sagebrush Rebellion. Following the meeting with Ward, Bundy said he felt like the group’s demands were being ignored. The Sheriff agreed. "I don't feel like they think they're getting enough attention yet," Ward remarked.
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Post by avordvet on Jan 12, 2016 6:14:57 GMT -5
The Miracle Whip Militia of Burns, Oregonby John Galt, January 11, 2016 19:05 ET They are an embarrassment to the Constitution movement, those who have made hard sacrifices to the “Patriot” cause, and worse, to anyone who claims to be a member of the 3%. This humiliates all of us with the issuance of this list and basically tells the Federal Officers who surround them that they will surrender in days, not weeks. If they want them to surrender tomorrow, all they would have to do is drop a Chinook helicopter to about 50 feet over cabins blaring warnings over the loudspeakers around 3:30 in the morning. That along would cause 50% of those their to stain their britches and request to surrender without a shot being fired because they can’t exist or fight without clean underwear (yes, that’s on the list). I just wondered if they brought more than 100 rounds of ammunition each or are they putting that on a separate list hoping Mommy and Daddy might drop it off to them. Miracle Whip? Really? Pass the Grey Poupon. johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2016/01/11/the-miracle-whip-militia-of-burns-oregon/
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 12, 2016 8:52:02 GMT -5
 h/t WRSA |
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 13, 2016 18:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jan 14, 2016 14:17:00 GMT -5
In case ya might want to make contact with the Oath breaking turd of a judge... As always with government corruption, the deeper you go the worse it gets. Harney County Judge Steven E. Grasty 450 N Buena Vista #5. Burns, OR 97720 541-573-6356. FAX: 541-573-8387. Email: steve.grasty@co.harney.or.usFBI Posing As Militia: Burns, OregonJohn Jacob Schmidt — January 13, 2016 Some citizens are wondering why Grasty wants to thwart any outside investigations into the BLM’s questionable, if not illegal, activities involving the isolated ranching community. Many are also questioning the apparent lack of separations of powers in the community, given the involvement of Grasty in the legislative, judicial, and executive branches of the local government. It has also been reported that Judge Grasty appointed the current Sheriff, David Ward, who recently said that time is running out for the patriots at the Refuge. There seems to be many more questions than answers surrounding the BLM and their relationship with some of the local officials, but the one question I have, is why are some in Harney County so upset about ‘outsiders’ snooping around? www.radiofreeredoubt.com/2016/01/13/fbi-posing-as-militia-burns-oregon/ |
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Post by avordvet on Jan 18, 2016 14:35:46 GMT -5
It appears the Hammonds need to make up their minds, Either they want attention brought to their plight or they don't. Even though they were persecuted for years with absoulutely NO national media coverage, they made it crystal clear they did not want help. Instead, they cried that the 'Militia' were not there at their behest and not acting in their interest. Then they willingly turned themselves in to the same corrupted government that had been persecuting them instead of taking the offer of protection put forth by numerous Militia and Patriot Groups. And now that national attention has been brought to their plight (which they resisted the whole way) along with many other ranchers/land owners that are being unconstitutionaly wronged and harmed by this out of control government; they say they are not getting attention?! 'I still don’t believe it': Hammond family feels forgotten in Oregon standoffAs the occupation in their name fuels a media circus, Susie Hammond’s husband and son are 800 miles away – victims, many say, of an unjust prosecutionSam Levin in Burns, Oregon, Sunday 17 January 2016 18.36 EST Last modified on Monday 18 January 2016 05.08 EST “We didn’t think it could happen,” said Susie Hammond, adding that stress has taken a serious toll on her health. “We thought we lived in America where you have one trial and you have one sentencing. They just keep playing political, legal mind games with people and people’s lives.” www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/oregon-militia-standoff-occupation-dwight-steven-hammond |
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Post by avordvet on Jan 25, 2016 6:01:32 GMT -5
Oregon standoff: Grant County sheriff urges release of HammondsBy Les Zaitz, The Oregonian/OregonLive, on January 24, 2016 at 5:33 PM, updated January 24, 2016 at 6:55 PM BURNS – Leaders of the armed protesters holding the national bird sanctuary on Tuesday plan to push their anti-government agenda in Grant County, whose sheriff recommends the government give in to two of their key demands. Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement to The Oregonian/OregonLive that "the government is going to have to concede something" to end the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. He said freeing a father-son ranching team from prison "would be a start. Sending the FBI home would be a start." He referred to the FBI's lead role in ending the refuge occupation. "I just pray to God that cooler heads prevail and that no one gets killed," Palmer said. The sheriff's endorsement of the militants' demands stunned law enforcement officials, most who would not publicly discuss the matter. www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/post_2.html#incart_big-photo
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Post by avordvet on Jan 26, 2016 5:12:43 GMT -5
This is a 4GW tactic and it works both ways... if goverment agents leave home unsure if they will return or if their families will be safe while they are gone, then they are more apt to stay close to their own AO and minimize their attacks on the citizenry. Militia Members Accuse Gov’t of Going to Unthinkable Lengths to Pressure Them Into Surrender — Here’s What We KnowJan. 25, 2016 1:52pm, Chris Enloe Two key members of the Oregon militia, who continue to hold the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, say Arizona officials took their children from their homes as an act of revenge. www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/25/militia-members-accuse-govt-of-going-to-unthinkable-lengths-to-pressure-them-into-surrender-heres-what-we-know/ |
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 26, 2016 22:09:29 GMT -5
readfomag.com/2016/01/breaking-ammon-bundy-in-fbi-custody/BREAKING: Ammon Bundy In FBI CustodyThis evening, the FBI made a legal, felony stop on a vehicle carrying Ammon Bundy and several other individuals. After a shoot out with the FBI, four individuals were reportedly taken into custody, including Ammon Bundy. Two individuals are reported to have been taken to the Burns hospital, which is currently on lock down. FBI sources stated that those at the Refuge are currently free to leave unimpeded, implying that there might be action if they do not leave immediately. Although those in custody have not been confirmed, we can safely assume that Buddha Cavalier was with Ammon. Ryan Payne suffered multiple gunshot wounds and was taken to the hospital, according to local officials. UPDATES: 1811L: Blaine Cooper has reportedly assumed leadership at the Refuge and has been told to leave immediately. During a phone call with Pete Santilli, Pete can be overheard saying, “Blaine, please don’t do this.” Blaine is reportedly wanting to make a stand. Women and children are still at the Refuge. 1821L: According to local government officials, Ryan Payne suffered multiple gunshot wounds and was taken to the Burns hospital. 1827L: Awaiting a forthcoming statement from law enforcement regarding the shoot out and arrests. 1844L: KATU News is now reporting that eight occupiers have been taken into custody. 1850L: Pete Santilli and Joe Oshaugnessy have also been arrested. 1900L: FBI reporting that one of the occupiers is now deceased. 
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 26, 2016 22:16:53 GMT -5
ncrenegade.com/editorial/breaking-ammon-bundy-taken-into-fbi-custody/BREAKING: Ammon Bundy Taken Into FBI Custodyby Sam Culper This evening, the FBI made a legal, felony stop on a vehicle carrying Ammon Bundy and several other individuals. After a shoot out with the FBI, four individuals were reportedly taken into custody, including Ammon Bundy. Two individuals are reported to have been taken to the Burns hospital, which is currently on lock down. FBI sources stated that those at the Refuge are currently free to leave unimpeded, implying that there might be action if they do not leave immediately. Although those in custody have not been confirmed, we can safely assume that Buddha Cavalier was with Ammon. Ryan Payne suffered multiple gunshot wounds and was taken to the hospital, according to local officials.
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 26, 2016 22:36:32 GMT -5
katu.com/news/local/leader-of-oregon-occupation-ammon-bundy-three-others-arrestedOne dead, Bundys arrested after confrontation with FBI on highwayHARNEY COUNTY, Ore. — One person is dead and several others, including Oregon occupation leader Ammon Bundy, were detained following a confrontation with the FBI and state police Tuesday night. It all began with a traffic stop while Bundy and some of his followers were en route to a community meeting in John Day, about 70 miles away. Shots were fired after FBI agents, Oregon State troopers and other law enforcement agencies made the stop on US Highway 395. Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Brian Cavalier, Shawna Cox and Ryan W. Payne were arrested during the stop. They're all facing federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the US from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation or threats. One person, who was the subject of a federal probable cause arrest, died. CNN is reporting its unclear who fired first. The arrests come on the heels of the 25th day of the refuge occupation.
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Post by southwind on Jan 26, 2016 22:57:05 GMT -5
Lavoie Finicum was the militiaman killed, per Pete Santilli's live feed.
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