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Post by Cujo on Aug 22, 2013 17:59:56 GMT -5
I had a discussion with a relative today and he asked if I died in the fight to restore our Nation would it be worth it? My reply I don't know I'll be dead, yea we laughed. But I went on to talk about the Tree of Liberty, he asked how many would avenge you? I rattled off 5 family members and about 6 friends, he said hell you're worth more dead than alive! WTF!!!
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Post by avordvet on Aug 22, 2013 18:38:35 GMT -5
I had a discussion with a relative today and he asked if I died in the fight to restore our Nation would it be worth it? My reply I don't know I'll be dead, yea we laughed. But I went on to talk about the Tree of Liberty, he asked how many would avenge you? I rattled off 5 family members and about 6 friends, he said hell you're worth more dead than alive! WTF!!! One Hundred Heads Sir,
I have read you on the internet and believe in what your doing. One day the ATF will come to count coup on you & take your head. I promise to take One hundred heads for yours.
Cheyenne 0317/8541sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/01/one-hundred-heads.html
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Post by Michael Downing on Aug 22, 2013 19:16:32 GMT -5
Far too many seem to want to concentrate on Jefferson's quote on the blood of tyrants but first and foremost he spoke of the blood of patriots and then of tyrants. The whole quote is as follows: "I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion.[1] The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order. I hope in god this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted." - Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, Paris, 13 Nov. 1787[2] wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/The_tree_of_liberty...%28Quotation%29
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Post by avordvet on Aug 23, 2013 3:33:58 GMT -5
"If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty."
And here we are again... Join or Die
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Post by Michael Downing on Aug 23, 2013 6:32:25 GMT -5
Or the other side of that; Secede or Die. What was the Declaration of Independence but an act of secession. I often wondered why a union born of an act of secession would declare war upon some of its members when they decided that there best interest was to follow a different and separate path. I guess there will always be tyrants and people who will follow them. May there always be those who know it is their right to rebel.
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