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Post by avordvet on Jun 6, 2013 4:31:52 GMT -5
The end game is afoot...they just have to connect a few more dots and tighten up a few more loose ends.
Alleged 'Top Secret' Court Order Reveals Alarming Scale of Domestic Surveillance in U.S. (And It Might Involve Your Phone Records)Jun. 5, 2013 8:29pm Jason Howerton Millions of Americans' phone records are being indiscriminately collected every day by the National Security Agency (NSA), according to a copy of an alleged "top secret" court order leaked to The Guardian. The alarming discovery seems to reveal the scale of domestic surveillance under the Obama administration. The alleged order, reportedly issued in April, demands that Verizon give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems on an "ongoing, daily basis" over a three month period. This includes calls made both within the U.S. and between the U.S. to other countries. www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/05/alleged-top-secret-court-order-reveals-alarming-scale-of-domestic-surveillance-under-obama-and-it-could-involve-your-phone-records/ |
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Post by Cujo on Jun 6, 2013 6:16:14 GMT -5
Here lies one of the problems, from ACTS of REBELLION:
In order to brand any of us as revolutionaries, they must first admit that they have abandoned the Constitution. To do that would be to de-legitimize their own offices. They can't do it.
So, they try to squeak out a little latitude by calling us domestic insurgents, or domestic terrorists without defining what is that we are against, which would be tyranny.
Based on the Governments interpretation of a terrorist, we can expect many innocent Patriotic Americans to be targeted. If you want proof you have to look no further than the IRS scandal .
So who under the Patriot Act is a threat? Christians, Constitutionalists, home schooler's, Veterans and the list continues.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 6, 2013 15:49:51 GMT -5
Scandals, data collection, abuse of power - it goes on and on...
June 6, 2013, By Scott W. Winchell
The Guardian, a publication produced in the UK, broke the Verizon data collection story yesterday and it has gone viral across the internet and social networking sites regarding the government's collection of phone data from Verizon on over 100 million subscribers. On its face, its an egregious grab by the government of your data, but its also not new and its not inclusive of the actual content of the transmissions. But that is not the whole point.
Andy McCarthy cautions us on the issue to understand the roots of this order at National Review Online:
www.standupamericaus.org/breaking-news/scandals-data-collection-abuse-of-power-it-goes-on-and-on/ National Security Agency collecting phone records of millions of Americans
June 6, 2013, Rick Moran
"Actually, it doesn't worry me that some dumb brute of a supercomputer takes a millionth of a second to scan any of my phone records for keywords or data patterns and then spits it out never to have access to it again.
I worry about that dumb brute of a computer making a mistake - or the human operator - and sticking my records into a "to be dealt with later" file that might result in unwanted attention from the feds."
www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/06/national_security_agency_collecting_phone_records_of_millions_of_americans.html Verizon Case Offers Glimpse of Vast N.S.A. Surveillance
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and EDWARD WYATT, Published: June 6, 2013
WASHINGTON - The United States government has been compiling a huge database of calling logs of Americans' domestic communications under a hotly debated section of the Patriot Act for at least seven years, the top lawmakers on the Senate Intelligence Committee said on Thursday.
www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/us/nsa-verizon-calls.html?_r=0 Verizon scandal: Barack Obama's national security state is now beyond democratic control
By Tim Stanley US politics Last updated: June 6th, 2013
The sheer number of scandals exposes Obama's inner authoritarianism
Those crazy American conspiracy theorists who live up trees with guns and drink their own pee don't seem quite so crazy anymore. It turns out that a "secret court order" has empowered the US government to collect the phone records of millions of users of Verizon, one of the most popular telephone providers -- a massive domestic surveillance programme and a shocking intrusion into the lives of others. For the first time in history, being an AT&T customer doesn't seem such a bad thing after all.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 6, 2013 17:05:48 GMT -5
Ah, I remember fighting the 'ole "Carnivore" battles back in the day... Just a conspiracy theory... Nothing to worry about...
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Post by avordvet on Jun 6, 2013 17:08:51 GMT -5
U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret programBy Barton Gellman and Laura Poitras, Thursday, June 6, 5:43 PM The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person's movements and contacts over time. The highly classified program, code-named PRISM, has not been disclosed publicly before. Its establishment in 2007 and six years of exponential growth took place beneath the surface of a roiling debate over the boundaries of surveillance and privacy. Even late last year, when critics of the foreign intelligence statute argued for changes, the only members of Congress who know about PRISM were bound by oaths of office to hold their tongues. www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboNP
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Post by Cujo on Jun 6, 2013 20:17:59 GMT -5
Ah, I remember fighting the 'ole "Carnivore" battles back in the day... Just a conspiracy theory... Nothing to worry about... Keep moving, nothing to see here, keep moving. |
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Post by walfred on Jun 7, 2013 0:52:42 GMT -5
Well the sheople can't say nobody told them this would happen!...I guess the conspiracy theory are all being proven true,one after another!
And now they all know that they are ALL on the list.Every single one of them,and the places they go are ALL mapped out(GPS) because they don't take out their cell phone batteries when they go to their secure location.
After this LAST Bilderburger meeting the CHit will get hot fast after July/01/13
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Post by avordvet on Jun 7, 2013 3:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by watchful on Jun 7, 2013 7:58:41 GMT -5
Can you imagine if 2000 people per day turned in their overpriced Cell phones to any carrier that was found to do this? That is after the technological withdrawal has subsided to a dull buzz in their minds where the IPOD ring once was heard. In a matter of 6 weeks the unemployeed phone upgrader sales folks would all be on the dole and looking for their Obama phones. Then the thousands of cold call business would be closing, followed by the thousands of NSA and DHS phone listeners. Lets do our part and go get a handheld CB and a base station before the rush. 8 days without a cell phone and still itching where it once hung.  |
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Post by Steven Peter Yevchak, Sr. on Jun 7, 2013 8:47:05 GMT -5
Yes, I'm sure they'd LOVE for all of us to give up our cellphones, shut off our Internet and shut UP.
But - since they've apparently got all of this information on us already, why in the world SHOULD we? What's the point?
I think the thing they're afraid of the most is that we COMMUNICATE, CO-ORDINATE - and get REAL news via our computers and phones.
We're using modern technology AGAINST them, IOW.
So, since I'm already taking up a few gigabytes of their storage space anyway - I'll keep right ON using all of it - maybe even MORE!
We've all known for years that they've been doing this (or at least SOME of us have) - why get scared off now? Especially since that's exactly what they want, to further isolate and mute us?
Sorry - that's not workin' here. Pete
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Post by midnightrider on Jun 7, 2013 9:21:29 GMT -5
Well the sheople can't say nobody told them this would happen!...I guess the conspiracy theory are all being proven true,one after another! And now they all know that they are ALL on the list.Every single one of them,and the places they go are ALL mapped out(GPS) because they don't take out their cell phone batteries when they go to their secure location. After this LAST Bilderburger meeting the CHit will get hot fast after July/01/13 I have been told that the I phones don't have a removable battery |
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Post by Steven Peter Yevchak, Sr. on Jun 7, 2013 9:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by Cujo on Jun 7, 2013 10:40:27 GMT -5
Can you imagine if 2000 people per day turned in their overpriced Cell phones to any carrier that was found to do this? That is after the technological withdrawal has subsided to a dull buzz in their minds where the IPOD ring once was heard. In a matter of 6 weeks the unemployeed phone upgrader sales folks would all be on the dole and looking for their Obama phones. Then the thousands of cold call business would be closing, followed by the thousands of NSA and DHS phone listeners. Lets do our part and go get a handheld CB and a base station before the rush. 8 days without a cell phone and still itching where it once hung. |
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Post by Cujo on Jun 7, 2013 10:46:35 GMT -5
Can you imagine if 2000 people per day turned in their overpriced Cell phones to any carrier that was found to do this? That is after the technological withdrawal has subsided to a dull buzz in their minds where the IPOD ring once was heard. In a matter of 6 weeks the unemployeed phone upgrader sales folks would all be on the dole and looking for their Obama phones. Then the thousands of cold call business would be closing, followed by the thousands of NSA and DHS phone listeners. Lets do our part and go get a handheld CB and a base station before the rush. 8 days without a cell phone and still itching where it once hung. Or 1- Reduce your current monthly plan, for those with contracts, they'll feel the revenue loss. 2- Cancel and use old cells or buy a cheap on with a calling card. The usage I understand won't show up under your name. Just another way of poking them in the eye. |
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Post by avordvet on Jun 7, 2013 14:01:09 GMT -5
Paper: UK Government Getting US Spy Agency's Data
Friday, 07 Jun 2013 11:42 AM
Britain's Guardian newspaper says that the U.K. government has been secretly gathering communications data from American Internet giants through the medium of the U.S. National Security Agency.
The paper says that it has seen documents showing how the British eavesdropping agency GCHQ has had access to America's "Prism" system since at least June 2010.
www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Britain-NSA-Spying/2013/06/07/id/508680 Breaking: NSA Eavesdropped on People Whom They Had Personal Grudges (Audio)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, June 7, 2013, 12:23 PM
Renee Montagne from NPR spoke with liberal columnist and author Glenn Greenwald, the reporter who co-wrote the stories for the British newspaper The Guardian, today on the massive data-mining scandal.
Greenwald dropped this bomb during the interview.
"There are reported examples of the NSA, analysts at the NSA, using mechanisms they have access to. ABC reported several years ago through whistle blowers that they have used it to eavesdrop on people on whom they have personal grudges. There are isolated examples of the Patriot Act being abused. The problem is that the entire system operates behind a wall of extreme secrecy.â€
Here's Greenwald on NPR this morning:
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Post by Cujo on Jun 7, 2013 17:07:05 GMT -5
Today in reference to the Government Spying on it's citizens, Obama said today that you you don't trust the Executive Office, Congress or the judicial branch well, then we have a problem.
This is the first time I can finally agree with Obama, yes sir, we have a problem!
Not only is there a disconnect between DC and the people, many people have lost the trust of the Government. When the Government lost the trust of the people there is, there will be a problem.
when a long train of abuses and usurpation's pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
I'm not feeling the love, are you?
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Post by avordvet on Jun 8, 2013 4:21:09 GMT -5
“'on at least one occasion' the national security court found that 'some collection' by the intellligence community 'was unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment' to the U.S. Constitution."Officials: NSA mistakenly intercepted emails, phone calls of innocent AmericansBy Michael Isikoff, National Investigative Correspondent, NBC News The National Security Agency has at times mistakenly intercepted the private email messages and phone calls of Americans who had no link to terrorism, requiring Justice Department officials to report the errors to a secret national security court and destroy the data, according to two former U.S. intelligence officials. At least some of the phone calls and emails were pulled from among the hundreds of millions stored by telecommunications companies as part of an NSA surveillance program. James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, Thursday night publicly acknowledged what he called "a sensitive intelligence collection program" after its existence was disclosed by the Guardian newspaper. openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18831985-officials-nsa-mistakenly-intercepted-emails-phone-calls-of-innocent-americans
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Post by avordvet on Jun 9, 2013 5:18:57 GMT -5
That's 'cause the info goes to admin GOP "helpers"... like Saxby Chambliss. he has been the GOP point-man on the Patriot Act and other Unconstitutional actions for years. And he could give a crap about your privacy, as the stack of responses I have from him on the subject clearly points out.
Dem. Senator Shuts Down Obama's Defense: 'Average Member' of Congress Not Aware of the Extent of Government Spying
Jun. 8, 2013 7:48am Madeleine Morgenstern
Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) on Friday shut down the notion that every member of Congress was fully aware of the government's Internet and phone spying programs.
www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/08/dem-senator-average-member-of-congress-not-aware-of-the-extent-of-government-spying/ Even More Lawmakers Say Obama Never Told Them About NSA Program, Despite Obama's Claim "Every Member" Of Congress Knew And Signed Off On It
So if he makes up straw men about "not listening in on our phone calls", then lies straight to our faces, claiming we should trust the process because our representatives all signed off on it, where does that leave us, when it is shown to be a lie? Back to the drawing board, Dear Leader, it's not working well for you...
weaselzippers.us/2013/06/08/even-more-lawmakers-say-obama-never-told-them-about-nsa-program-despite-obamas-claim-every-member-of-congress-knew-and-signed-off-on-it/ White House Plays Down Data Program
By JONATHAN WEISMAN and DAVID E. SANGER, Published: June 8, 2013
WASHINGTON - The Obama administration tried Saturday to marshal new evidence in defense of its collection of private Internet and telephone data, arguing that a secret program called Prism is simply an "internal government computer system" designed to sort through court-supervised collection of data, and that Congress has been briefed 13 times on the programs since 2009.
www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/us/politics/officials-say-congress-was-fully-briefed-on-surveillance.html?_r=1& Whistleblower's NSA warning: 'Just the tip of the iceberg'
By Shaun Waterman, The Washington Times, Friday, June 7, 2013
The National Security Agency's collection of phone data from all of Verizon's U.S. customers is just the "tip of the iceberg," says a former NSA official who estimates the agency has data on as many as 20 trillion phone calls and emails by U.S. citizens.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/the-national-security-agencys-collection-of-phone-/ Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data
Revealed: The NSA's powerful tool for cataloguing data - including figures on US collection
-Boundless Informant: mission outlined in four slides
-Read the NSA's frequently asked questions document
Glenn Greenwald and Ewen MacAskill, Saturday 8 June 2013 15.10 EDT
The National Security Agency has developed a powerful tool for recording and analysing where its intelligence comes from, raising questions about its repeated assurances to Congress that it cannot keep track of all the surveillance it performs on American communications.
The Guardian has acquired top-secret documents about the NSA datamining tool, called Boundless Informant, that details and even maps by country the voluminous amount of information it collects from computer and telephone networks.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 10, 2013 5:32:16 GMT -5
Oath Breakers need the rope...
NSA memo pushed to 'rethink' 4th AmendmentBy PHILIP EWING | 6/7/13 2:21 PM EDT Updated: 6/9/13 6:49 PM EDT The National Security Agency pushed for the government to "rethink" the Fourth Amendment when it argued in a classified memo that it needed new authorities and capabilities for the information age. www.politico.com/story/2013/06/nsa-memo-4th-amendment-92416.html |
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Post by watchful on Jun 10, 2013 8:16:45 GMT -5
Here is a thought that I see as missing everyone's nerve endings! "Is the NSA a bonified, documented, congressionally approved, Executive branch, sub-organization or is it a "For Profit Corporation" with a contract for work with the united States of America Corporation?" We have recently had the "Federal Reserve" step up and notify the people and the world that they were a Civilian For Profit Corporation. We have seen one of the "Internal Revenue Service" directors claim the 5th Amendment. The have also on tape admitted that the Income Tax was "Voluntary". How long before they too claim their "For profit Corporation" Status. We have long known that the Social Security Administration was a "For profit" Corporation. Todo is steady pulling away the curtains to show the wires and switches being operated by the evil men behind it.  |
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Post by avordvet on Jun 11, 2013 14:47:46 GMT -5
He absolutely lied under oath, send him off to a good ole PMITA prison for his treason.
Clapper under fire for suggesting no knowledge of fed's massive phone, email collectingPublished June 11, 2013, FoxNews.com Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is under fire for statements he made before Congress that suggested he had no knowledge about federal government programs that collected data on millions of Americans’ phone calls and Internet activities. In March, Clapper said at a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that he was not aware that the National Security Agency was involved in such large-scale efforts. www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/11/clapper-under-fire-for-hill-testimony-suggested-didnt-know-about-fed-massive/ |
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Post by avordvet on Jun 12, 2013 13:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Downing on Jun 12, 2013 13:35:48 GMT -5
I heard on the news the other day that one senator had suggested that Edward Snowden might be a Chinese double agent or at least sold out to the Chinese. Most are calling him a traitor or at least a criminal. A rare few are calling him a hero. Labels are something many attach to another to further their own agenda... ncrenegade.com/editorial/who-were-the-patriots-and-traitors-in-nazi-germany/WHO WERE THE PATRIOTS AND TRAITORS IN NAZI GERMANY? Ever since I was a kid, I have heard Americans ask, “How could the German people have allowed the Nazi regime to commit its evil acts?” Well, here’s the answer to that question: The German people had the same warped and distorted concept of patriotism that American statists have today. The overwhelming majority of German citizens believed that it was their moral duty to come to the unconditional support of their government in time of crisis, especially when the nation went to war. The good citizen didn’t question whether his government was right or wrong. The good citizen placed his trust in the judgment and decisions of his government officials, especially during crisis and war. That’s what patriotism meant to the German people during the 1930s and 1940s. The good citizen — the one who deferred to authority — was considered the patriot. What about German citizens who refused to defer to authority, those who had an independent mindset — those who would examine government policies with a critical eye — those who would question, challenge, and object to wrongful government policies? They were considered bad citizens — traitors. fff.org/2013/06/12/who-were-the-patriots-and-traitors-in-nazi-germany/ |
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Post by watchful on Jun 12, 2013 13:44:36 GMT -5
This guy is a real heart breaker!
The info he outed was what is needed to end this administration. The wet and wild ones just found out Big O is listening in on their newly acquired free Obama phones and snitching them out to the IRS and DEA, and local cops.
The guy on the other hand instead of appearing before Congress dropped the dead cat on the Courthouse steps.
On one side he has committed a vile treason to the oath he swore when he got his job. On the other side he has told the American people that everything they have learned to trust is a lie as are the people they elected to protect them.
While he may see himself as a Julian Astang (wikileaks) he is really a Benedict Arnold or Johnathan Pollard (mossad agent).
Either way it is time for him to begin getting his affairs in order and having a facial redo. Spooks do not like being outed.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 12, 2013 13:50:47 GMT -5
On one side he has committed a vile treason to the oath he swore when he got his job. I disagree; To remain silent would have violated his Oath. |
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Post by avordvet on Jun 12, 2013 14:35:17 GMT -5
Heh, kill me and "friends" will disclose the rest of the info.
Snowden Threatens to Reveal More NSA SecretsWednesday, 12 Jun 2013 02:13 PM Former US spy Edward Snowden Wednesday vowed to fight any bid to extradite him from Hong Kong and promised "explosive" new revelations about Washington's surveillance targets, the South China Morning Post reported. www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-security-intelligence-HongKong/2013/06/12/id/509564
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Post by avordvet on Jun 16, 2013 4:30:00 GMT -5
Sent to my network... They have lied to you yet again and right to your face... "We only collect meta-data from a small segment" (1/3 of the us population alone), "we do not spy on Americans" (Clapper absolutely lied under oath to congress). The lies expand and/or another scandal covers the others EVERY week. How much more do you need to see before taking action, them sending you and your family off on a nice train ride to a DHS "camp" for a soothing (to the govt) chemical shower? Stand and Resist
NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.
by Declan McCullagh, June 15, 2013 4:39 PM PDT
The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.
news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/ Reasonable people know this is over the top
June 7, 2013, By: Anthony Martin
Is the administration claiming, thus, that 100 million people are maintaining contact with terrorists overseas? If one believes the administration's explanation of the program, one would have to accept the premise that fully one third of the American population is involved in some way with overseas terrorists.
www.examiner.com/article/reasonable-people-know-this-is-over-the-top Government spying scandal expands to include pretty much everyone, everywhere
By: John Hayward, 6/7/2013 09:49 AM
There are probably a handful of mountain men living completely off the grid, never making phone calls or using email, who the government isn't spying on. Other than that, it looks like it's just about everyone.
www.humanevents.com/2013/06/07/government-spying-scandal-expands-to-include-pretty-much-everyone-everywhere/ Damage Control Time: National Intelligence Releases PRISM "Facts"
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/08/2013 18:12 -0400
In short - please believe him. He is from the government, he is telling the truth, and the government is here to help. As for all those Verizon (and other carrier) all too domestic phone intercepts: don't you worry about that.
www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-08/damage-control-time-national-intelligence-releases-prism-facts The Usurper is right... We DO have some problems here, problems that will be taken care of shortly... his base is turning on him now, Occupy is wondering how many of them have been monitored, Congress members are now openly asking if the admin has been monitoring them... "That's Classified" was the answer. Obama makes defense of surveillance programs
By Steve Goldstein, MarketWatch, June 7, 2013, 1:24 p.m. EDT
"If people can't trust not only the executive branch but also don't trust Congress and don't trust federal judges to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here," Obama said.
www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-makes-defense-of-surveillance-programs-2013-06-07 Watch Eric Holder Refuse to Answer Whether Congress' Phones Were Monitored
Jun. 6, 2013 1:28pm Madeleine Morgenstern
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Post by avordvet on Jun 17, 2013 3:50:09 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Jun 17, 2013 14:29:07 GMT -5
State photo-ID databases become troves for police
Written by Craig Timberg Ellen Nakashima, Published: June 16
The faces of more than 120 million people are in searchable photo databases that state officials assembled to prevent driver's-license fraud but that increasingly are used by police to identify suspects, accomplices and even innocent bystanders in a wide range of criminal investigations.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/state-photo-id-databases-become-troves-for-police/2013/06/16/6f014bd4-ced5-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html Schools Scanned Kids' Eyes Without Parents' Permission
Monday, 17 Jun 2013 01:46 PM, By Sandy Fitzgerald
Parents in a Florida school district are fuming after learning officials failed to ask permission to scan their children's eyes for a high-tech school bus security program.
The Polk County School District claims a series of errors led to the program moving forward. Parents were told they could opt out -- but only after 750 students had had their irises scanned.
www.newsmax.com/US/Polk-eyes-scan-permission/2013/06/17/id/510330 School iris-scanned students without telling parents
A Florida school admits that it made several mistakes when it allowed a security company to install iris scanners without telling parents -- and without even having a contract with the company.
by Chris Matyszczyk, June 17, 2013 3:48 PM PDT
There's a quaint concept that seemingly every technology company dismisses as outdated.
It's called opting in.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 18, 2013 4:01:53 GMT -5
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