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Post by avordvet on Mar 19, 2013 14:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Mar 19, 2013 14:34:24 GMT -5
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Post by brocktownsend on Mar 19, 2013 14:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by safetalker on Mar 19, 2013 15:32:08 GMT -5
We all need to look at this from a different perspective here and now! What are our options? 1. We force the business owners to stop hiring the "Undocumented" workers. How? 2. We force the States bordering the International Borders to man their borders and stop the "Undocumented" tourists from passing through their states. How? 3. We authorize the local cops to shoot every "Undocumented" person they come in contact with. How? 4. We give up our Constitution and our 10 rights and allow the Government to do as they will and they end up shooting us.
You can not have it both ways. The crime is not when Jose' walks from Mexico into Arizona. That is just a misdemeanor. The crime is committed when ABC Electrical hires Jose' and pays him to perform menial tasks for less than minimum wage. That is a Felony in some states. It is also a misdemeanor in some states. However since Jose' has no Social Security Number, or Tax payer Identification number when the owner at ABC Electrical takes out the SSI, FICA, and Taxes where do they go? Unless they are sent to the State if there is an Income tax, Social Security, and Medicare, and Unemployment insurance carrier he is committing Fraud and that is a crime! How many on this blog are that employer or work for him and keep quiet? The knowledge of a crime and failure to report is also a crime and is considered aiding and abetting. I researched this top to bottom. I looked into every State and every Federal statute on this and I am convinced that until we the people get our head out of Washington's ass and start reporting these criminals these folks will continue to accept donations from the employers to look the other way. Jose' is only here to make 3 to 5 times what he can make in Mexico and not pay a penny of taxes on that. Then when Maria gets sick he takes her to the Hospital and she gets fixed up. When the employer stops paying Jose' he will take Maria and move elsewhere. Remember the old signs on the walls to "Turn in a pusher"? How about some that say turn in a "Cheater Employer"? Not as zingy, but just as practical. We won't do that though because we will have to pull our entire load on the job because the boss won't be able to pay an american what he pays Jose' to do the extra stuff. So we just keep quiet, and Bitch!
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Post by hefferman1 on Mar 20, 2013 9:52:14 GMT -5
Paul has said he was misquoted. He wants more work visas, and they have to follow the normal path to citizenship. He also said they should not have to be shipped home. I disagree with him on this. They need to be shipped home and not allowed to come back and apply for citizenship. Only those who come here legally need a path to citizenship.
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Post by avordvet on Mar 20, 2013 12:00:48 GMT -5
I disagree with him on this. They need to be shipped home and not allowed to come back and apply for citizenship. Only those who come here legally need a path to citizenship. Exactly, they broke the law and they need to go home. Kids of Illegals... Tough, blame your law breaking parents.
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Post by avordvet on Mar 22, 2013 4:05:26 GMT -5
Rand trying to defend his amnesty stand using the old "Well its always been done this way" tact. Rand Paul Has a 'News Flash' for Coulter, Limbaugh and Other Critics of Immigration ReformMar. 21, 2013 9:00pm Becket Adams "People like Coulter and Limbaugh say people like you are being suckered into an agreement here," Hemmer said. "What they argue is that conservative principles should not be sacrificed here, it's that the Republican message has been lost in the process. What would you say to that?" "We have 11 million people here. They've been here, some of them, for a decade or more. No one is telling them to go home, no one's sending them home," Sen. Paul responded. www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/21/rand-paul-has-a-news-flash-for-coulter-limbaugh-and-other-critics-of-immigration-reform/
To my homie Rand, thanks for stepping up for us man...
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Post by jerome on Mar 22, 2013 8:35:50 GMT -5
Reporting them doesn't do anything. I worked for a company a few years back that had a workforce consisting of about 70% illegal aliens, they even bragged about it openly. I called ICE weekly for about a year and nothing was ever done.
One day a car load of them (4) were pulled over on the way to work, no drivers license among the group. They were an hit late for work and given a ticket. Right after I started one of my other coworkers was deported after being convicted on drug charges. Two weeks later he was back at this company, working under a new name despite the fact everyone knew.
It's all a big joke and won't be fixed by any of or currently serving politicians because they don't have the balls to do what is right
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Post by jerome on Mar 22, 2013 8:37:16 GMT -5
Should say hour late, not hit
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Post by avordvet on Mar 29, 2013 4:25:39 GMT -5
Now Cantor joins the Amnesty train... Because as soon as the illegals children gets citizenship so do the parents... from illegal to legal residents without all this fuss. Good work Republicans, really fighting America's fight, 25 million new demorats. Cantor: Give Illegals' Children Path to CitizenshipWhile it will be difficult to reach an overall accord on immigration, Republicans and Democrats should at least be able to agree on a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who came here as children, says House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cantor-immigration-citizenship/2013/03/28/id/496809
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Post by safetalker on Mar 29, 2013 7:23:01 GMT -5
You are missing the big picture here. [glow=red,2,300](Helmet time folks)[/glow] The federal Government in Bill Clinton's time were pledged WE THE PEOPLE as collateral improvements to the land held by the trust for the American Bankruptcy of 1936 by a Presidential Executive order. This use has been spent and now they need more Americans to pay for the updated interest debt of this Bankruptcy. Folks you is chattel! By adding 12 million Mexicans, Chinese, Haitians, Arabs, and South Americans to the rolls we can pay for our elected felons for another 10 years or till we get the gonads to run them out of Washington and take our republic back.
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