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Post by avordvet on Aug 19, 2012 4:06:50 GMT -5
Normally I would say you pull a knife on a cop, you're gonna get what you deserve... But this crosses the line. Murder charges should be brought against all these guys. WATCH: Police gun down Michigan man with 46 shots in 5 secondsShocking new footage has surfaced that shows six police officers in Saginaw, Mich., shooting a disturbed man 46 times in a period of five seconds on July 1. An investigation is underway.By Charlie Wells, NEW YORK DAILY NEWS www.nydailynews.com/news/national/watch-police-gun-michigan-man-46-shots-5-seconds-article-1.1139283
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Post by dragon on Aug 19, 2012 4:43:37 GMT -5
Murder on the six, and conspiracy charges against the Dept for not EXPEDITING an internal investigation to corrolate the so called "independent" investigation. This is heading the direction of the Rodney King riots. To stand back and be cold and harsh, this WAS suicide by cop, no questions on that. However, Tazer and numerous other LE equipment manufacturers make less lethal weaponry that SHOULD have been used. or example, Tazer's "orange shotgun", a modified 12 ga riotgun that fires a round the size of the plastic portion of a real 12 ga shell, that is a completely self contained taser cartridge, that is effective, if memory serves me correctly, up to fifty yards. no little darts and it will defeat soft body armor as well. And as I stated, this is just ONE of a selection of less lethal devices they could have used. Saginaw is not exactly a "safe" town, so there is no excuse for not having the squads equipped with these types of devices. Up until the first shot was fired, the problem was that of someone who did not sound impared in anyway, the man even stated his anger. This alone is a warning sign the officers should have heeded. They did not. They NEED to be prosecuted to the maximum extent. The first rule of combat firearms training a cop gets isn NOT to respond to the sound of gunfire unless it is directed at them. They had one perp and he was under careful scruteny. They had the dog, when the man turnd and walked AWAY, the proper procedure is to launch "the canine missile" even if the man had a firearm. K9s are meant to reduce the use of firearms which, as we all know, have the potential of inflicting colateral damage, well beyond the target itself. Not one person who is aware of the training the cops go through can deny the fact, that regardless of their records, these were all BAD Cops
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Post by busboy on Aug 19, 2012 7:08:07 GMT -5
Always a better way.
The Sheriffs in New Orleans that got shot and killed, might rethink their actions if they had a chance.
This is a story of the media being able to continue a narrative which fits their purposes. Regardless of the outcome of the investigation, "it was wrong".
One thing that this story may help answer, is what all the DHS ammo is for. 46-49 rounds per person, that adds up very quickly.
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Post by hefferman1 on Aug 19, 2012 11:33:06 GMT -5
If the police had the equipment, they could have bean bagged the guy, tazered, the guy, or pepper sprayed the guy.
The going to deadly force as a first option was going too far.
It is plain this guy had issues, major issues.
Why not let the dog go? Was it to protect the dog? It is a dog, and he was a human. Sorry for any dog lovers, but humans are more important than dogs IMO.
Someone needs to be in an orange jump suit over this.
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Post by safetalker on Aug 19, 2012 20:22:31 GMT -5
Perhaps what we are watching is the opening day of the revolution. The people are hurting. In the poorer neighborhoods worse than others. They see cops wave at known drug dealers. The cops do it to let them know they are watching. The dealer responds to tell them they can't touch him because he is too smart. The people do not know this hidden communications and assume they are working together. Then when a stranger et between them he get the Axe by one or both. That stranger is someones son, daughter, Brother, Sister, Dad or Mom. So when they get hurt the anger overflows. The time is now. The place will be where ever you are standing. The war has began and n o one called Go!
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