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Post by avordvet on Jul 10, 2012 13:21:54 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Downing on Jul 10, 2012 15:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by safetalker on Jul 10, 2012 20:56:03 GMT -5
I am not sure what this is supposed to be. I blew it up and I can't identify the equipment. 1. The chopper has no markings as would be required to fly in the States. 2. The device on the guy with the patch's wrist is foreign to me. (may be my age) Looks like a dual gauge chronometer. 3. The same guy's weapon has what looks like wooden or at least brown barrel protector. The muzzle cover looks a bit large for either MP4 or M16. 4. The two burnt out vehicles look like non-us vehicles back one a German or east European. 5. The same guys barrel light, or laser is brown not black like ours as is the . 6. He is also wearing a hardened knuckel gloves. More civilian than military
The buildings are constructed of what looks like European style construction blocks (metric)not US style Concrete blocks 14 X9". If these are US soldiers they are not carrying anything US or if so not Military. may be cops or merc's.
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Post by busboy on Jul 11, 2012 0:53:49 GMT -5
Some interesting observations. I do think this photo is likely a "file photo" of training events, likely out of the country, Iraq/Afghanistan perhaps.
Think about the notion that military is being run around the US, in these mock drills in the cities. It is best described as saber rattling. It is show, it is intimidation perhaps, but why?
If you have a plan that you think you can implement, and you have the resources to implement it, and you intend to implement it regardless of the actions/reactions of those around you....do you bother "showing" your hand and rattling the saber?
The fact is that the government knows that it can not "force" the American People to do anything, they can not use the military successfully to make their desired outcome happen. So they do these exercises as a show of force, knowing that the troops will go along with a "training exercise" but not an "operation". Knowing that the People will not physically resist a "training exercise", but might very likely resist an "operation".
If "they" were planning on implementing some overwhelming operation of force, to take over cities and populations, why would they need to "show their hands"?
The fact is, they can't do these things, but if they can get large percentages of the population to believe they can, then they can get large percentage of the population to sit down and do nothing.
This is the same MO they have been using for years. Convince the People of this country there is nothing they can do to stop the government and their handlers from achieving their goals. Because it is impossible to defeat America, she has to surrender.
This is why the Supreme Court has to go along with these actions, like in the Obowma Care ruling, to make you feel helpless.
This is why they have to foist the stories about an UN Treaty is going to take away your guns, to make you feel helpless.
This is why we are fed story after story, from the established media about not being able to fight the government, to make you feel helpless.
This is why Obowma Care uses the IRS for their enforcement, because it is the most feared agency in the country, psy-ops, to make you feel helpless.
They must defeat your moral and will, before they even engage the effort to oppress you, or they will be slaughtered.
This is one of the reasons I just simply can not understand the headlong rush by many patriots to the notion that it is already over and we are lost. Again, there are many, many positive things going on, but if you listen to the likes of Alex Jones, we are all doomed and there is nothing that we can do. Why? Why is it that he has such a following in the patriot community? Where is his resolutions? Every story I have heard from him end the same, we are doomed, and will be oppressed. This is just one example of "patriot" new outlets which perpetuate the same psy-ops as the mainstream media...."you have already lost, resistance is futile, surrender".
Anyways, their goals are clear.
-Foster a sense of defeatedness among the American People. Convince them they are already defeated, alone and helpless to resist.
-Foster a sense of paranoia among the American People. Get them to think that each other are the enemy, to cut communication and coordination. Pit neighbor against neighbor, family member against family member.
- Restrict 'good news' stories, keep the moral of the People low, with bad news in general, and restrict flow of stories which expose the lies of them being defeated.
- Focus all attention to the failed political resolutions on the federal level, to distract from the successes on the state/local level, and to highlight the notion that the government is "all powerful" and too big for the "common man" to fight or fix.
These psy-ops have been used, over and over, around the world, with pretty good success. They have been used in the US with varying degrees of success, in the past.
Again, if you have the plan, the resources, the ability to do what you want....then why the "show"? Just do what you want, when you want, and be done with it. Why "bluff" when you hold four aces?
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Post by lumpy39us on Jul 11, 2012 3:50:53 GMT -5
My guess, garmin, found at uscav.
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Post by lumpy39us on Jul 11, 2012 4:01:42 GMT -5
I'll guess it is a unit from SOAR.
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Post by avordvet on Jul 11, 2012 4:10:26 GMT -5
I'll guess it is a unit from SOAR. winner
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Post by safetalker on Jul 11, 2012 6:36:11 GMT -5
It is a mixed bag guys. The soldiers love to be seen by their friends and families as ready to help in a pinch. The too they also have a queasy feeling when called on to do what soldiers do in the states. The ones I speak to that have been used in places like New Orleans were not happy, but were told they were there because of the gangs. One side of them doing what they felt was necessary, but the other side hating some of what was directed. Then again since the Mid east war many of the soldiers are not natural born Americans. They are still recruiting in Mexico, and the Mid East. These guys I spoke to very seldom had any opinion. They just shrugged and went on about their foreign language discussions with each other. I used to train in Central North carolina and the locals used to line up to get their property on the exercise area. Then they could be one of the "Locals". Like I said "Mixed bag"
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Post by Michael Downing on Jul 11, 2012 11:21:38 GMT -5
St. Louis residents praise sight of military vehicles in neighborhoods. Following reports last week that U.S. Army wheeled tanks would be rolling down residential streets and highways in St. Louis as part of a training program, local news media channels featured interviews with residents who praised the sight of troops on the streets as a valuable crime-fighting tool similar to that used in foreign countries. As we reported on Friday, the exercise is part of a U.S. Army program run by military police from Fort Meade, Maryland focused around training MPs from St. Louis how to drive heavily armored vehicles “on highways and on city streets.” According to a Fox 2 St. Louis report, “people who live and work in the area think the army training is a good idea.” Indeed, the report features interviews with two residents, one of whom states, “I think it’s the same way when you go to other countries…they don’t have police officers they have troops, and I think it kind of scares a lot of people…it might cut down on a whole lot of crime because they don’t know if they’re military or the police.” “I think it’s fantastic because it might slow down some of the crime rate,” added another. In a separate KSDK report, although acknowledging that some had expressed fears about martial law, the news channel emphasized how other residents had vowed to “stop and salute” the tanks as they rolled by. While these news channels have framed the idea of troops on the streets as normal and reasonable, others have gone even further. A joint drill between military and police in South Florida last month involving troops storming a building in the middle of the night, unannounced to local residents, was characterized by local media coverage not as a frightening example of how Americans are being acclimatized to accept a state of martial law but as a ‘cool tourist story’. Why is the news media, in its editorial decision to feature interviews with residents who laud troops on the streets of America in a similar vein to despotic foreign countries, actively promoting the idea of martial law? Having U.S. troops perform duties normally ascribed to law enforcement officers is forbidden under section 1385 of the Posse Comitatus Act, which states, “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.” Why is the news media giving editorial credence to something that is not only completely illegal but fundamentally anti-American and more in line with what you’d expect to see in the former Soviet Union or modern-day North Korea? As Zero Hedge points out, the idea of troops from Maryland traveling all the way to St. Louis merely to teach other MPs to drive tanks doesn’t make sense unless one factors in the probability that this is an exercise in desensitization. I have to say that this event, which is being labeled a “training exercise”, makes very little sense to me. U.S. Army troops all the way from Maryland running open exercises in armored personnel carriers on the busy streets of St. Louis? I know Maryland is a small state, but is there really not enough room at Ft. Detrick to accommodate a tank column and some troops? Are there not entire fake neighborhood and town complexes built with taxpayer dollars on military bases across the country meant to facilitate a realistic urban environment for troops to train in? And why travel hundreds of miles to Missouri? At the very least, this is a massive waste of funds. On the other hand, such an action on the part of the Department of Defense makes perfect sense if the goal is to acclimate citizens to the idea of seeing tanks and armed military acting in a policing capacity. Just check out the two random idiots the local news affiliate picked to interview in St. Louis on the subject. Both state that they think the exercise is a “great idea”, because having the military on the streets would help to “reduce crime”. www.hangthebankers.com/media-promotes-troops-on-american-streets-to-cut-down-on-crime/
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Post by midnightrider on Jul 11, 2012 11:33:57 GMT -5
YUP, THE SHEEPLE ARE CERTAIN TO WAKE UP! TIC TOC TIC TOC
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Post by Cujo on Jul 11, 2012 13:58:10 GMT -5
As Sarah would say, "You betcha" there are people out there who think we're thru. But I'll assure you many of those will still attempt to contribute in one way or another.
We also have to be realistic, we are economically falling over a cliff, we have a media brain washing the public, a media that sensors the truth, politicians ignoring the voice of the People, politicians who look out for their self interest & party over the People, implants from the USSR corrupting the system, troops doing exercises on public streets, Agenda 21, Global Governance, and the Peoples Constitution being spit on.
Yes, time is running out, but what we do agree on if that we can't stop fighting back.
The only news sources out there without the Doom & Gloom is Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC & NBC. Unfortunately there is truth to be found in Doom & Gloom.
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