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Post by avordvet on Jun 14, 2011 20:05:14 GMT -5
SWAT shooting of Guerena ruled 'reasonable and justified'By Michael Truelsen, Posted: Jun 14, 2011 1:47 AM ADT Updated: Jun 14, 2011 1:57 AM ADT The SWAT officers who fired more than 70 shots and killed Jose Guerena in his house have been vindicated by the Pima County Attorney's office. "Under the circumstances, and based upon our review of all the available evidence, we have concluded that the use of deadly forces by the SWAT Team members was reasonable and justified under the law. Accordingly, the Pima County Attorney's Office finds no basis to prosecute," according to the ruling on the shooting by Pima County Attorney Barbara LaWall.... www.kold.com/story/14901148/swat-shooting-of-guerena-ruled-reasonable-and-justified
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Post by brocktownsend on Jun 14, 2011 23:48:14 GMT -5
Unf------ believable.
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Post by m21308 on Jun 15, 2011 5:12:20 GMT -5
I'm speechless.
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Post by safetalker on Jun 15, 2011 6:35:43 GMT -5
The family needs to sue the bonds of the Officers and charge the District Attorney with Misprison to a Felony.
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 15, 2011 16:11:09 GMT -5
This will not end well, as people now know they have to resist the police, or be murdered.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 6:32:05 GMT -5
Then this becomes government sanctioned murder...pure and simple. And evil on so many levels. I fear for the safety of law abiding LEO's in the future
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Post by Sedition on Jun 16, 2011 7:30:08 GMT -5
I fear for the safety of law abiding LEO's in the future I don't. It's come down to the simple fact of "clean up your own s*** or we will clean it up for you." This is survival folks...plain and simple survival.
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Post by safetalker on Jun 16, 2011 8:09:45 GMT -5
Until the people stand up and make their LOCAL municipality aware that they will not tolerate this type of action in their community it will continue. When the Blacks stood in the street demanding action as a result of Rodney King in LA Blacks were subjected to this on a daily basis. It dropped quickly afterward. With the election of a Minority to the highest office in the land (Corporate or not) it became in bad taste to complain in the media. When he and his minority Attorney General decided that the use of deadly force against Americans in any location was legal under their law it became improper to bring up these situations above the community level. What is needed are for people who love their land and want these things to stop to look beyond the skin color, beyond the ethnic names, and beyond their family. To see these actions and every time they hear of some Hispanic or black motorist being arrested they must stop assuming he is a drug lord. When they see on the 5:PM News that someone was tasered in their town, state, or neighborhood they need to mount a Freedom of Information Act request for the arrest records. This will put the City Attorney, the Mayor, and the LEO bosses on notice that it will be looked at and they will begin to weed out their own bad apples before it hurts their elections.
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Post by midnightrider on Jun 16, 2011 8:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 16, 2011 8:40:42 GMT -5
That is not new, and it gives no real reason to even go into his house. There was also zero evidence of any of the actions described in the search warrant.
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Post by midnightrider on Jun 16, 2011 8:59:06 GMT -5
Got it. Thanks
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Post by safetalker on Jun 16, 2011 12:13:14 GMT -5
I wish I could see the Warrant issued for this Resume'. If there really was a judicial warrant and not a Magistrate's Warrant that Judge could be in serious trouble. I tried to wire diagram that statement and it came close to our victim, but never quiet touched. It would be easy though in a all white court system to see how all of those names around him could make him a suspect, but not a target for a no knock. I don't think that just because he served should grant him a pass, but it should have been mentioned on the Resume', along with his service record before any approval just to show the gap between 2008 and 2010.
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Post by brocktownsend on Jun 16, 2011 17:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 17, 2011 13:11:18 GMT -5
It sounds a lot like "Sippenhaft" or Blood Guilt, where one person is guilty by who his family is, or what his family has done, rather than what he has done.
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Post by safetalker on Jun 17, 2011 20:00:51 GMT -5
You seem to be correct. From the statements written by the media, the department, and that Resume' for the warrant there are two cases. I. That my Jose' Guerena was either the victim of guilt association. or 2. His whole family was a dedicated crime organization and he served as a clean spot for meetings, diversions. I believe the investigators believed the later. However irregardless of his position in the family it don't take the 20 rounds he took to quiet even the toughest marine, and they fire over 70 they would admit to. It is possible that as we also run around our daily duties wearing our Retired Military caps with awards, medals and campaign pins are also lining ourselves and our families for this same type of response if we are determined to be a threat to the arresting LEOs.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 18, 2011 4:03:04 GMT -5
It is possible that as we also run around our daily duties wearing our Retired Military caps with awards, medals and campaign pins are also lining ourselves and our families for this same type of response if we are determined to be a threat to the arresting LEOs. And that is a choice we all have to make... Tremble in fear as a slave, or be prepared to die on your feet as a free man. "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. So help me God."
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Post by safetalker on Jun 18, 2011 7:17:01 GMT -5
Not I. Wrong constitution!
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. So help me God."[/quote]
The original Constitution of the united States of America said 'for the united States". The one that says 'of the Unite States' was the one put in place when the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Inc took over in 1871 and at the same time they dispose of the original 13th amendment. This is how they keep us on the corporate string. They use half truths and cohesion contracts to make us believe we are free yet keep us slaves to the corporation formed by Lincoln.
PS: I also signed that pledge many times over my 27 years of service. Unknowingly sacraficing my children's Yahweh given rights for another 6 years of pay.
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Post by brocktownsend on Jun 18, 2011 11:16:05 GMT -5
Not I. Wrong constitution! "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. So help me God."The original Constitution of the united States of America said 'for the united States". The one that says 'of the Unite States' was the one put in place when the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Inc took over in 1871 and at the same time they dispose of the original 13th amendment. This is how they keep us on the corporate string. They use half truths and cohesion contracts to make us believe we are free yet keep us slaves to the corporation formed by Lincoln. PS: I also signed that pledge many times over my 27 years of service. Unknowingly sacraficing my children's Yahweh given rights for another 6 years of pay.[/quote] Good point and posted.
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