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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 14, 2011 7:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 14, 2011 7:57:12 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Jun 14, 2011 7:58:50 GMT -5
People are waking up. Now we need to find a way to reach them and teach them, so they are ready when things go bad.
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Post by safetalker on Jun 14, 2011 9:25:46 GMT -5
What are we to teach them? I have been here trying to get awake people to understand that their Tyrannical Government is just a Corporation set up in 1871 to manage the District of Columbia and the outlying Islands. Yet everyone wants to go out and elect new corporate members, defend the corporation based upon Patriotism, and to profess their "Allegiance" for said corporation and those who have been the CEO before who have used their positions to acquire wealth, and power, and to declare the people of this land enemies of the corporation. If all of this is out then what is left to teach?
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Post by Cujo on Jun 14, 2011 10:04:46 GMT -5
I think it is the delivery, when someone starts to talk about the fact we are ran by a Corporation you get a blank stare. My cousin can rattle facts about this Corp. Nation, it's mind boggling, but most including myself have a hard time grasping it. I'm further along then I was 15 months ago on this topic but I have yet heard one person talk in laymen terms on this topic.
Most people are having a hard time grasping the fact just how corrupt our gov. is, their self interest & all the hidden agenda's. Now explain to them how this is a Corp. Nation! You are right though, they need to know, but as soon as they start hearing Corp. Nation I can see their eye's fog over.
Safetalker & for my cousin talking about it is like knowing the back of your hands. On the outher hand we have to re-educate people first that we are not a Democracy but a Republic. It's like learning to crawl before you can walk. Open their eyes first with the Constitution.
As the public awakens & becomes reborn again with the Constitution then maybe people will understand that we are a Corp.
just my .02
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Post by midnightrider on Jun 14, 2011 10:39:07 GMT -5
What are we to teach them? I have been here trying to get awake people to understand that their Tyrannical Government is just a Corporation set up in 1871 to manage the District of Columbia and the outlying Islands. Yet everyone wants to go out and elect new corporate members, defend the corporation based upon Patriotism, and to profess their "Allegiance" for said corporation and those who have been the CEO before who have used their positions to acquire wealth, and power, and to declare the people of this land enemies of the corporation. If all of this is out then what is left to teach? I think most who are here ARE awake! Would it not be better toawaken people who are asleep? Just sayin.
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Post by Cujo on Jun 14, 2011 11:10:38 GMT -5
I'll bet most that are asleep, thinks we are a Democracy. Teach them that we are a Corp. before we remind them that we are a Republic first, I think some will go back into a sleep of denial.
Whats up midnight rider, watch your BP ;D
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Post by safetalker on Jun 14, 2011 13:28:19 GMT -5
Try this. When over half of the elected congress refused to allow the Norther States to trade southers land for access to European markets they stood up and went home. This left the Congress without enough people to conduct business. No congress no money for Government employees, army, etc. To make this work Lincoln, being advised by his Norther Aids declared an illegal/unlawful Martial Law. In that martial law he became the Commander in Chief of the Armed forces. Using this power he had the remaining members of the Congress return and pass a law to form the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Inc to manage the affairs of Washington DC and the people who live there. Under this same Martial Law he had the 14th Amendment ratified at the point of a rifle in the 10 Southern States. This 14th Amendment created a new type person in the land. It created a "US CITIZEN". Up till this time we were all citizens of our states. The use of the all capitals spelling in law designates a corporation or straw-man, or fictitious entity. (Non-bleeding) These US CITIZENS all owe allegiance, and duty to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation. The corporate bounds established by the congress for this corporation is the 10 square miles of Washington DC. This 14th Amendment also ensured that these US CITIZENS were responsible to pay the debt of the Corporation and that no law of any state could over ride the Amendment. From there it got worse. The legislature of the Corporation, since the real legislature has not met since 1863, has been publishing only Statutes, Acts, and Regulations. These only pertain to the US CITIZENS. To make you respond and agree to be a US CITIZEN they put contracts in front of you that don't state they are contracts. For instance. When you got that first job the employer told you that to work you needed a Social Security Card. That was what he was directed to tell you to keep his business license. The truth is that Social Security is voluntary. It says so in the act they passed. When you filled out the card (SSI-501) on the back it asked "Are you a: 1. US CITIZEN 2. OTHER You committed a fraud and stated US CITIZEN. Then signed the card. If you joined the Military service you did likewise. To ensure you know this every document you receive has you name in "ALL Capitals". There is however a real you reading this board. He is a sovereign bleeding man/woman and has his rights from Yahweh, The Magna Carta, and the first 10 amendments to the original Constitution. He has his rights and there is no man or group of men who can take them away. When they call your name in court they call out, and write it on the docket with all capital letters. When you stand and say here as it is called you again commit a fraud and claim that straw-man is you. To be free you have to learn how to stop being that US CITIZEN and begin to be an American.
Is this clear enough for you.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 14, 2011 14:23:24 GMT -5
I think most who are here ARE awake! Would it not be better toawaken people who are asleep? Just sayin. That is the reason A&M and then L&P has stood up. WE, along with other active patriots, are the front line right now until relieved. Although we are awake and in full blown preparation mode, we MUST continue to awaken the grazing sheeple, and when they awaken, we need to be standing there, pointing them to the preparation area's and then to the front lines. In the interim, we must not back off an inch, it is almost assured we are going into another financial collapse, if not a full blown economic collapse. Our "duty" right now is to toll the bell as long as we can, if the country cannot be pulled out of the flat spin, then the patriot movement as a whole must be ready to give direction, whether it be defensive or offensive. This is a race to the finish line and the scope of the damage will depend on who gets there first... I'm pulling hard for our side!
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Post by wyomingmatt on Jun 14, 2011 14:39:43 GMT -5
Okay Safetalker, I follow you on all of the "US CITIZEN" fraud stuff. But, I'll bet that everybody has been going along with it for as long as our grandparents can remember. So, what do we do to get out of it? Our entire society is framed this way. How do you get out from under it?
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Post by safetalker on Jun 14, 2011 15:32:57 GMT -5
There is a new dog in town. It is called the Republic for the united States of America. In this republic are Republic Free states. They are working to free as many minds as they can. When I receive a letter I read it from front to back. Why? Because it may be a contract from some level of the Corporation. If I ignore it and throw it away I may have placed my self in dishonor in a contract. So I read it. I know this because that is how they work. They use the UCC to create contracts with people. Then when the people are in dishonor they attack. However their contracts and business is with the straw-man. i don't want him to go away since he draws my Military retirement, my Social Security, he maintains my Bank account of FRN, and so many other things. However I am free! When their CEO big "O" does something stupid I don't get excited. He has no effect on me. When some young LEO stops me and asks me for my license I ask why. I can not receive a ticket unless I "Understand". i ask always if I am under arrest. They assure me not an I ask friendly questions till they get bored and leave. I have filed my "Notification of Reservation of Rights (UCC 1-308/1-207) in the County recorders office so everyone will understand. I also spend 4 hours a day reading. I have read the Magna Carta, The bible, the Constitution of the united States of America Circa 1789 with the first 10 amendments. Ihave read the 1775 North Carolina Constitution. I have read Chapter 24 of the North Carolina Statutes which covers UCC in North Carolina. Why? Ignorance of their law is not a valid excuse in case I break that law. I am in business so I need to know. This how it is done. This is what you must do also only as it pertains to your state. I have joined the new Freestate of North Carolina so I can assist in re occupying the De Juir offices of Man in the new American dream.
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