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Post by avordvet on Apr 5, 2011 13:43:04 GMT -5
See The (Shocking) Numbers Behind the Jobs NumbersPosted on April 5, 2011 at 10:08am by Jonathon M. Seidl Yesterday we showed you a depressing chart that shows “it would take until 2016 to regain the employment highs of 2006-2007.” That’s a reality check considering the media blitz the administration took part in last week trumpeting the great jobs numbers. Ready for some more? According to number-crunching blogger Jim Quinn (via Zero Hedge), the jobs numbers are leaving out some important details. Despite Obama and his crew boasting about adding 216,000 jobs last month, Quinn says the economic picture isn’t all roses and buttercups: www.theblaze.com/stories/the-real-shocking-numbers-behind-the-jobs-numbers/
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Post by stoner44magnum on Apr 5, 2011 15:14:14 GMT -5
Don, are you trying to tell us that our dear leader, chairman maobama, and his administration (and ALL other administrations!)have been lying to us?? Say it isn't so Don!
How much more of this BS are folks going to sit by and take?!
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 5, 2011 15:15:31 GMT -5
Here is a link to a page showing the REAL unemployment rates. www.wnd.com/?pageId=270957Real unemployment is 22.1% So much for Obumernomics.
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Post by avordvet on Apr 5, 2011 15:17:17 GMT -5
How much more of this BS are folks going to sit by and take?! Attachments:
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Post by the1badger on Apr 6, 2011 7:11:03 GMT -5
;D
Please give Mr. Stoner the microphone...I believe he has an announcement to make.
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 6, 2011 9:18:02 GMT -5
How much more of this BS are folks going to sit by and take?! Yesterday Glen Beck talked about Normalcy Bias, which is where people will do very dumb things like stay in New Orleans when a Cat. 5 Hurricane is going to destroy the city, or go back to turn off the lights at the World Trade Center when it has been hit by an airplane. We are faced with the same thing concerning our government, just as our founding fathers were, as is shown in the preamble of " The Declaration of Independence". "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,[72] that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." That is from, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_IndependenceThe key part is as follows, "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." That gentlemen is where we are today. On a side note, I think Glen Beck has my house bugged, because I will talk about something and within a week he does a show on it. This last part is just a personal note, or random though from me, telling you to be careful what you say on the phone to me.
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Post by the1badger on Apr 6, 2011 9:43:55 GMT -5
I know that feeling!
I think that is all Obammy does...he is sitting there watching ESPN, drinking beer, and listening in on our thought provoking conversations.
I find it interesting how many people acknowledge that we are at or past the point of restoring the Republic...and yet still here we sit.
Our forefathers would have BURNED washington for far less than they are doing today.
Why then are we waiting?
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Post by avordvet on Apr 6, 2011 13:34:41 GMT -5
The time is fast approaching my friend, you feel it... we all feel it. Although I am in no rush to engage, pretty soon there will be no choice as the options are dwindling fast. But, you know as well as I, that to hit 'em without the means to win is to doom the "Re-Founding" movement to failure. The tide is turning, we all see it, the only question left is, do we have the time to turn the ship around before it hits the rocks? Most of the hard core knows better, we have been watching in disgust as the country was run into the ground... and the average citizen, as mentioned a couple of times, are suffering from "Normalcy Bias", they do not want to believe what they are seeing. I'm afraid it going to take a MUCH deeper crisis to get the average joe to fight back.
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 6, 2011 14:12:54 GMT -5
The time is fast approaching my friend, you feel it... we all feel it. Although I am in no rush to engage, pretty soon there will be no choice as the options are dwindling fast. But, you know as well as I, that to hit 'em without the means to win is to doom the "Re-Founding" movement to failure. The tide is turning, we all see it, the only question left is, do we have the time to turn the ship around before it hits the rocks? Most of the hard core knows better, we have been watching in disgust as the country was run into the ground... and the average citizen, as mentioned a couple of times, are suffering from "Normalcy Bias", they do not want to believe what they are seeing. I'm afraid it going to take a MUCH deeper crisis to get the average joe to fight back. I believe the same thing. My biggest worry is some idiot pulling a stupid ignorant first strike type of attack. That would give the media the excuse to attack and turn the tide against us, as happened in the past. I have said it before and will say it again, we have to force them to make the first bad move. The bad move that justifies us standing against tyranny modern pitchfork in hand.
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Post by avordvet on Apr 6, 2011 14:33:35 GMT -5
I have said it before and will say it again, we have to force them to make the first bad move. The bad move that justifies us standing against tyranny modern pitchfork in hand. And that must be the goal, to push the country hard towards a constitutional "Re-Founding"... We must keep the pressure on, they will either relent or strike. Early on they were hitting us from all sides, we adjusted to their tactics and shoved them back against the wall. The progressives/socialists know the cat is now out of the bag, everyone has seen the man behind the curtain and are now on guard, so in my view they only have two choices... Back off on their push towards their wet dream of a Utopian NWO, or as most socialist regimes do, accelerate the attack and quickly attempt to repress the opposition.
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Post by Michael Downing on Apr 6, 2011 14:53:03 GMT -5
Normalcy bias is the inability to believe that something as catastrophic as a complete collapse can happen here in the United States. I see people everyday who will throw their arms in the air and say “That’s it we are screwed. Life as we know it is over.” They then drop their arms and go about their lives as if nothing will change. That is why so many people may feel deep inside that things are very, very wrong but refuse to prepare for what is very likely to come. These same people are the ones who will show up on your doorstep when the collapse does come because you had the forethought to prepare. They hope you will share and if you do not share they will take what you have put aside for yourself and your family unit. I know many who say they put some aside for charity but believe me you cannot put enough aside to meet the needs of those who did not prepare if and when a collapse comes. Why do we wait? We wait because it is what we must do. We wait because in our hearts and in our souls we know we must not be the aggressor and will continue to suffer the transgressions forced upon us by the enemies of Liberty before we will purposely strike out in an act of aggressive force. Our forefathers suffered for years under the rule of tyranny and still sought to beseech the King for just treatment under the law instead of taking to arms. They finally stood but only when the troops of the King marched to Lexington to seize their arms and their powder. Even then they refused to be the aggressor. Remember the words of John Parker “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.” Rush not to arms for those times may all too soon be forced upon us but forced upon us as a last resort they must be. Until then we must continue to do everything we can to try to turn the ship away from the rocks. Do I think it can be done? No. Will I still continue to try? Yes. The stage for the big battle is being set. If the Republicans truly stand their ground on fiscal responsibility and I do not mean on the argument over 40 or 30 billion or a shut down but on the 6-7 trillion in cut backs proposed by Paul Ryan. These cut backs will bring to light who truly wants to reset the course of this ship. Most people are OK with someone else taking a cut back but want to keep their own piece of the pie intact. How mush are you willing to give up to truly right the ship and secure the future for the generations to come. This budget battle will not be the end all answer to securing Liberty and Freedom but it will begin to define just where many people stand. I myself believe we have another 4-5 years before this all comes to a final confrontation and that is if we cannot turn the tide. Before that time we may all have to give up plenty as did our founders. “Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?” www.dojgov.net/Liberty_Watch.htm
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Post by stoner44magnum on Apr 6, 2011 14:56:50 GMT -5
I have said it before and will say it again, we have to force them to make the first bad move. The bad move that justifies us standing against tyranny modern pitchfork in hand. And that must be the goal, to push the country hard towards a constitutional "Re-Founding"... We must keep the pressure on, they will either relent or strike. Early on they were hitting us from all sides, we adjusted to their tactics and shoved them back against the wall. The progressives/socialists know the cat is now out of the bag, everyone has seen the man behind the curtain and are now on guard, so in my view they only have two choices... Back off on their push towards their wet dream of a Utopian NWO, or as most socialist regimes do, accelerate the attack and quickly attempt to repress the opposition. I believe they are waiting until they are fully prepared. They have been putting in food (400 MILLION MRE's ordered), body bags, and plastic coffins. When they have all in place they will trigger an "event" and the poop storm will begin. Some believe HAARP and other such devices can actually trigger earthquakes. If that is true this is what the U.S. Navy believes the U.S. will look like after a New Madrid fault earthquake: www.jungleapocalypse.com/headline/us-navy%E2%80%99s-earth-changes-usa-flood-map-new-madrid-earthquake-zonenle-2011-what-does-the-navy-know/I know that seems pretty tin foil hatish, but what if it's true? What if they actually can trigger earthquakes at will? Wouldn't that be the perfect way to kill a few birds with one big stone? They could reduce the population, wipe out all governmental debt, give them less ground to defend, institute draconian martial law policies because of the chaos that would be sure to ensue, and take TOTAL control of re-forming our once free nation in the NWO template. I do believe that a catastrophic event such as this is truly the only way out of the debt crisis we have allowed our "representative" criminals to get us into. Our "leaders" simply do not have the will to make the massive necessary cuts to effect the changes that have to take place to right this sinking ship.
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