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Post by 2ncrca on Mar 26, 2011 17:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by safetalker on Mar 26, 2011 19:09:49 GMT -5
The only problem with this is that the highways are the bailywick of the States. thus the money will be spent of something else.
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Post by remyrw on Mar 26, 2011 19:15:23 GMT -5
yes, great plan, economy's in the toilet, so let's look at adding more taxes. Folks will just love that and spend more money to stimulate the real economy rather than the government pocket books.
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Post by stoner44magnum on Mar 27, 2011 2:22:10 GMT -5
So folks will limit their driving to a bare minimum, cut out frivolous trips, combining as many errands as possible into one trip thus LOWERING the government's revenue in the long run, forcing big daddy government to raise taxes even more to make up for the loss they created.
Soon we will be taxed for the very air we breathe.
When will ALL of our citizens wake up and realize that the very entity that has created MOST of the problems should not nor can be the same entity to fix those very problems??!! Thats the definition of insanity at it's best. But I guess I should expect no different as every election cycle we (most, not me!) continue to vote for the same worn out, broken two party system that has led us into this mess in the first place. It really is quite maddening!
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Post by Michael Downing on Mar 27, 2011 9:09:41 GMT -5
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Post by aronatbc on Mar 27, 2011 10:40:10 GMT -5
I'd be ok with something like this if competing PRIVATE companies were providing our road services.
As it is, I'll shoot someone before I let a FedGov agent install one of these things on any of my cars.
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Post by avordvet on Mar 27, 2011 11:14:05 GMT -5
As it is, I'll shoot someone before I let a FedGov agent install one of these things on any of my cars. Hopefully the Govt won't force law abiding citizens to take such measures by pushing such unconstitutional laws.
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Post by m21308 on Mar 27, 2011 14:27:49 GMT -5
The only way that I can see them enforcing this is taking the State's vehicle inspections and turning them over to the feds where you will get the joy of paying for the device and installation. Next year when you go through inspection, they download the mileage for the year prior and send the info to the DMV who adds the tax to your annual registration renewal fee. No payment of tax on annual mileage and no registration renewal. It will be all handled by the DMV and they will give the feds their cut. Too easy. Failure to do so and no pass on the inspection thus no registration renewal and no driving. No way to fight it passively except to quit driving. The chains are getting heavy. And Stoner...Please keep that "Tax on the air we breathe" on the down-low. I was complaining about my dog tax here a few years ago and said to my wife, "Jeez, they tax me on everything but the rain that falls from the sky and the air I breath, WTH?!" Well, two weeks later we were given notice of the rainwater runoff tax whereby THEY figure out how much roof, sidewalk and paved driveway they THINK we have based on their estimate of what they think the average home in the area has and tax me on it. So, since I have a smaller than average house and no paved driveway I am paying the same amount as Richie Rich in the McMansion down the road. And the County Bureaucrat idiots are so sure of their perfect system that there really is no fighting it.
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Post by brocktownsend on Mar 27, 2011 14:47:02 GMT -5
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Post by safetalker on Mar 27, 2011 20:08:16 GMT -5
Welcome to North Carolina this starts this year in NC. The difference between the last inspections miles and the current inspections miles are computed by so much per mile and added to the property tax valuation.
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Post by stoner44magnum on Mar 28, 2011 7:05:41 GMT -5
Welcome to North Carolina this starts this year in NC. The difference between the last inspections miles and the current inspections miles are computed by so much per mile and added to the property tax valuation. That is an especially dirty way of stealing that tax! How do they plan on stealing it from those whom rent? Seems that NC is making it pretty difficult to get away from this theft. I know how I am planning to get away from the theft that will come from maobama care, but if it is done this way I'm not so sure.
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Post by safetalker on Mar 28, 2011 7:35:30 GMT -5
We in North Carolina pay a personal property tax on our vehicles. We even have to pay a tax on dogs and cats here.
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Post by smokeeater on Mar 28, 2011 8:52:59 GMT -5
Living in a rural area we drive maybe 20-25 miles one way for shopping also 50 one way to work and with gas at 3.60 a gal we are conserving now !!!!also the job I am in I use alot of fuel doing that job , so I will be paying 3.60 or higher for fuel and taxed on top of that !! I do not think so
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Post by remyrw on Mar 28, 2011 10:12:30 GMT -5
I'd have thought that all the taxes on gas sales, tires, every other part that wears out on a moving vehicle... would already cover this, so basically it's another tax on something already taxed, that was bought with taxed money which had already been reduced by taxes called SS and medicare that most of us will never see a dime of.
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Post by smokeeater on Mar 28, 2011 10:24:21 GMT -5
The last time gas went above 4.00 a gal it started the mess we are in today ,not saying it was the only reason but it was a contributer now gas is climbing again and the govt . wants to put a tax also ? this is a planned take down of our system we need to wake up our neighbors !!!
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Post by brocktownsend on Mar 28, 2011 12:32:43 GMT -5
My representative Pat McElraft of Emerald Isle and three others are moving to limit or suspend gas taxes. www.newsobserver.com/2011/03/18/1061482/gop-is-moving-to-limit-or-suspend.htmlAlso from NEWSMAX. Special: Interviews With Doctors Who Are Quietly Curing Cancer 3. Talk Is Cheapest in Oregon, and Spirits Are High Motorists in New York State can save big time on gasoline taxes by simply driving to neighboring New Jersey to fill up. New York has the second highest state gasoline tax rate, charging 47.1 cents per gallon, while New Jersey ranks No. 48 with a tax of just 14.5 cents per gallon, according to a new report from the Tax Foundation. California has the highest tax, 47.7 cents, while other states with low gas taxes are Alaska (8 cents) and Wyoming (14 cents). The Tax Foundation’s report discloses wide differences in the state taxes imposed on other items including cigarettes, spirits, wine, beer, and cell phone usage. In Oregon, the average state and local tax rate for cell phone usage is just 1.81 percent, in Nevada it is 2.08 percent, and in Idaho, 2.2 percent. Nebraska has the highest rate, 18.64 percent, followed by Washington (17.95 percent) and New York, 17.78 percent. State taxes on cigarettes in New York amount to a whopping $4.35 per pack, followed by Rhode Island at $3.46 and Washington, $3.025. The tax on smokes is lowest in Missouri, 17 cents, followed by Virginia (30 cents) and Louisiana (36 cents). While it may be cheap to talk on a cell phone in Oregon, having a cocktail while chatting can be expensive. The state excise tax on spirits in Oregon is $22.38 per gallon. Only Washington is higher, $26.03. New Hampshire and Wyoming have no excise tax on spirits, and in Vermont the tax is just 67 cents per gallon. Wine is a different story. Alaska has the highest excise tax on wine, $2.50 per gallon, followed by Florida at $2.25 and Iowa at $1.75. There is no statewide tax on wine in Mississippi, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Wyoming, according to the Tax Foundation. As for beer, the tax is highest in Alaska ($1.07 per gallon), Alabama ($1.05), and Georgia ($1.01), and lowest in Wyoming (2 cents), Missouri (6 cents), and Wisconsin (6 cents).
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Post by safetalker on Mar 28, 2011 13:23:21 GMT -5
Here goes aluminum helmet time again. One of the most disconcerting thing about Americans is that we tend to get up one morning and say sc#@w it and load up the Car, truck, wagon, backpack and MOVE someplace else. This throws all of the best laid plans made by tyrants and UN thugs alike. They move the darn satellite over our home to snoop on us and the house is empty. We even took the darn dog. In those high minded European cities we wold need permission to move. That is also the problem the EU has with the Gypsies. They move often and sometimes far, others just own the road. They have raised our gas and all we did was buy it an d drive on. So now with this use tax they will be able to determine who moves and who stays put. However they don't have any control over our American ingenuity. Just about the time they started advertising the collection of the miles driven from the inspection someone began figuring out how to shave miles off their travel. They may have a couple smart guys, but we all have or know some more devious guys than their smart guys. I suspect it would be easier to get an American to give up his gun than his truck.
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