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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 5, 2009 11:27:17 GMT -5
America's Constitution is being demeaned, dismissed, and destroyed, May God bless AmericaBy Jim O'Neill Thursday, September 3, 2009 Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm?” - John Page (1744-1808) The above words are taken from a letter that John Page wrote to Thomas Jefferson. Page was referring to the first American Revolution. We are now participating in the second American Revolution—and this one is every bit as important as the first. Page’s question remains a pertinent one. The left-wing has taken to disdainfully calling us several names: “Birth-ers” because we seek the truth about Obama’s legitimacy to be POTUS, and they call us “Death-ers” because we tell the truth about their plans for government-run abortion and euthanasia “clinics.” Conservative Americans believe in the truth, and want the truth—in fact, demand it. Because we seek the truth, the left-wing might as well call us—“Truth-ers.” Which would make the left-wing “Lie-ers.” An excellent article and a must read... canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14394
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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 5, 2009 11:28:24 GMT -5
"The revolution will be neither easy nor bloodless. There will be a price to pay for our freedom." Who among us does not know that there will be sacrafice? Are you truly willing to pay the ultimate cost for freedom if so required? "Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?" More information on the fate of the founders can be found at link below. www.dojgov.net/Liberty_Watch.htmWe know that freedom does not come free so we must choose to acknowledge the words of General John Stark, "Live Free or Die; there are worst evils than death."
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Post by avordvet on Sept 5, 2009 11:55:39 GMT -5
Good post(s) commander, we'll sticky this one for awhile so all can read it.
We live in perilous times, hopefully the people stepping forward into limelight will have to fortitude to complete what needs to be done to bring our Republic back to where it belongs... leading the other nations throughout the world out of the tyrannical darkness and into a brighter future.
Our founders gave so much to put us on our path, should we fail to maintain it, they will have suffered in vain.
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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 5, 2009 12:11:03 GMT -5
"Our founders gave so much to put us on our path, should we fail to maintain it, they will have suffered in vain." Not on our watch sir, not on our watch. When the time comes we must hand the torch of Freedom to those coming up behind us for there may be battles lost along the way, but the war ultimately must be won.
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Post by brocktownsend on Sept 5, 2009 15:13:18 GMT -5
Canada Free Press, better than any down here, it seems.
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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 5, 2009 19:19:53 GMT -5
I love Canada Free press and get updates from them. They have soem of the most though provoking articles I have seen. Alot of free thinking Americans write there.
Jim O'Neill was born in June of 1951 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Jim O’Neill proudly served in the U.S. Navy from 1970-1974 in both UDT-21 (Underwater Demolition Team) and SEAL Team Two. His recent article in the Canada Free Press is right on from my point of view. His list of necessary changes is a starting point that I am sure we all can add to.
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Post by brocktownsend on Sept 5, 2009 19:22:30 GMT -5
I love Canada Free press and get updates from them. They have soem of the most though provoking articles I have seen. Alot of free thinking Americans write there. Jim O'Neill was born in June of 1951 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Jim O’Neill proudly served in the U.S. Navy from 1970-1974 in both UDT-21 (Underwater Demolition Team) and SEAL Team Two. His recent article in the Canada Free Press is right on from my point of view. His list of necessary changes is a starting point that I am sure we all can add to. Hey! I'll be ecstatic just with those, and I promise I won't ask for anymore, if granted!
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Post by jerome on Sept 6, 2009 1:13:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Canada Free Press is a must in my daily reads when looking for news. I also hit WND, NRA News, and Jerusalem Post (mainly just for news from middle east but they do hit upon US stories of interest quite often). If anyone's interested in my other reads I'll tell ya but they aren't news, just a few blogs i frequent.
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Post by nwtimmy on Sept 7, 2009 11:02:56 GMT -5
I liked all of his items except the last one - "Put God back in our schools, our government, and our courts." I understand that this country was founded on principles that are at the heart of a lot of religions, but I feel that putting "God Back in our schools, etc." would be indicative of America adopting an official religion. That is clearly against the Constitution. I don't think we should force God back into the government, schools and courts, but I do think God SHOULDN'T be banned in those places as it is right now.
I don't know about you guys, but when I was in High School (way back in the 90's) we still had a prayer read every morning, right after the pledge of allegiance, and right before the morning announcements. I don't mind that, but some people might. I think a moment of silence would be more appropriate. But that's just my .02.
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Post by 2ncrca on Sept 7, 2009 11:34:48 GMT -5
I would agree that respecting all religious traditions, or the individual's decision not to believe, is part of our national heritage, but let us remember the reason for the founders desire not to allow a national religion. Even in contemporary times many European, Central and South American nations have established Concordats with the Roman Catholic Church incorporating it into the governmental frameworks of those nations to the point that it is favored by the governments where the church resides. The Church of England's Archbishop of Canterbury holds a position of influence in the British parliament. During the reformation, the Roman Catholic church was incorporated into the governments of all European governments, until Martin Luther, Henry VIII, Calvin and others broke away from the Roman Church creating christian sects of their own. Once established and accepted by the potentates of various European monarchies the churches of the reformation took the place of the Roman Church as part of the government. Both Roman aligned and Protestant aligned nations punished membership in opposing churches with death using horrendous torture and execution. Even in 18th century England, though the punishment of death for not belonging to the Church of England was no longer administered, membership in any church other than the Church of England carried with it a social stigma.
There was never an attempt to separate faith from the national practice among early Americans only that no church or religious institution gain the favored status of the state. Today, many misinterpret separation of church and state as a reason to destroy any public show of religious belief which completely contradicts the intent of the founders.
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Post by nwtimmy on Sept 7, 2009 12:29:41 GMT -5
There was never an attempt to separate faith from the national practice among early Americans only that no church or religious institution gain the favored status of the state. Today, many misinterpret separation of church and state as a reason to destroy any public show of religious belief which completely contradicts the intent of the founders. I don't support anything that denies public support of religion or faith in any way, I just don't want it to become a mandatory practice. I'm one of those guys that thinks "under God" should be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, as it wasn't added until the 50's. Lets get back to 1790 and call it good!
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Post by avordvet on Sept 7, 2009 13:02:34 GMT -5
I would have to agree with nwtimmy on this one, Leave it up to personal choice and practice.
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Post by 2ncrca on Sept 7, 2009 15:51:35 GMT -5
There was never an attempt to separate faith from the national practice among early Americans only that no church or religious institution gain the favored status of the state. Today, many misinterpret separation of church and state as a reason to destroy any public show of religious belief which completely contradicts the intent of the founders. I don't support anything that denies public support of religion or faith in any way, I just don't want it to become a mandatory practice. I'm one of those guys that thinks "under God" should be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, as it wasn't added until the 50's. Lets get back to 1790 and call it good! Mandatory anything other than the natural laws against murder, theft etc should not be part of government interference. In the colonies everyone was expected to participate in Sunday worship services even to the point that if anyone napped while in church some one was appointed to tickle the person's face with a feather or some such device to wake them up. Gone are those days and with good reason. No one should be forced against their will to comply with such personal choices. ;D
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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 7, 2009 17:58:08 GMT -5
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.” - Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson was not the most devout of our Founders but I agree with him that the day we seperate our God given rights from God we may well expect to feel his Wrath and thsoe days are near brothers. The founders never intended to have a wall between church and state they just felt because of their history in England that a Government sponsored religionw as oppressive. They intended freedom of religion so we are free to chose which religion or none if that be our choice but it appears to me that we really headed down hill quick once we decided to take God from the schools, now from our money , now from our pledge of alliegence and on it goes. I am a devout Home Baptist myself and have not had a great experience most of my life with organized religion but I am a true Believer. God Bless you all...
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Post by trap115 on Sept 7, 2009 19:37:29 GMT -5
I myself like the sound of" one nation under god"
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Post by avordvet on Sept 7, 2009 19:48:45 GMT -5
and that is what makes America great! you can have it any way you want... as long as you don't force your beliefs on another.
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Post by brocktownsend on Sept 7, 2009 19:48:52 GMT -5
I myself like the sound of" one nation under god" Can't hurt!
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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 7, 2009 20:49:09 GMT -5
Amen...
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Post by trap115 on Sept 8, 2009 5:49:28 GMT -5
Yep that"s why we have the 1st amendment
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Post by NCFREEDOM on Sept 8, 2009 12:10:42 GMT -5
I am on board with Commander on this one. The Founding Documents were not written lightly. They were written with purpose and intent designed around judeo-christian biblical scriptures. To save or restore the republic without GOD is futile. We either honor God and He leads or stay on the path we are currently one, because ultimately we will be back where we are today.
Interesting that we believe in a constitutional republic and for the greater part of our history has worked well. In constrast, other countries and people who adopt a constitutional republic without GOD being their source of freedoms, fail. The Iraqi Constitution will fail, because it doesn't recognize GOD.
This sounds very harsh, and I am not advocating a government sponsored religion, but neither did our founding fathers either. BUT, by adherring to the Constitution, you in esscence are following biblical principals laid out by GOD. The 2nd Amendment for example has basis in three specific scriptures but one that sticks out vividly is Luke 22 where the Lord instructure the disciples to sell their clocks and buy a sword....
There is a book or phamlet on Scripture in the Constitution that I'll dig up.
But then again, just my thoughts
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