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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 2, 2015 17:55:24 GMT -5
How many more incidents before the public is convinced that "reasonable" gun control is absolutely necessary. Already there are those using this incidence to carry forward their agenda. www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.htmlSan Bernardino shooting live updates: At least 14 dead, officials say; police searching for attackers What we know • Around 11 a.m., at least one shooter opened fire in San Bernardino at the Inland Regional Center, a facility that serves people with developmental disabilities. • Preliminary numbers: At least 14 people were killed and at least 14 wounded, the San Bernardino police chief said. • Police said there were one to three assailants, who were heavily armed and possibly wearing body armor. • No one is in custody. Police are searching for a black Yukon SUV that drove away from the shooting. • Investigators are not sure whether the shooting was an act of terrorism, an FBI official said. • Police seek the public's help finding the attackers. Tipsters can call ( 866) 346-7632 ; to stay anonymous, call (800) 78CRIME.
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Post by avordvet on Dec 3, 2015 5:15:02 GMT -5
consolidated Michaels threads...
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Post by WARLOC on Dec 3, 2015 7:49:52 GMT -5
The new norm you have to read the rhetoric. LONG GUNS not rifles or Assault Rifles but LONG GUNS!!!! This may be the next Executive action to ban LONG GUN SALES!!!! Then it will be you do not need hand guns!!!!!!
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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 3, 2015 8:01:35 GMT -5
If they follow this to it's likely conclusion and admit it was Islamic terrorism they will be disappointed. Far better for the anti gun crowd if it had been disgruntled white Tea Party members. www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/03/they-were-a-couple-the-striking-difference-between-the-san-bernardino-suspects-and-other-mass-shooters/They were a couple: The striking difference between the San Bernardino suspects and other mass shootersIt is extremely rare for a mass shooting in America to have multiple perpetrators — and even more so for one of them to be a woman. At a press conference Wednesday night, San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan identified the suspects killed in the shootout with police as Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27. Burguan said they were either married or engaged, and later said in response to a question that they could have been boyfriend and girlfriend. Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Council for American-Islamic Relations in Los Angeles, told The Washington Post that Farook and Malik had been married for two years and left their 6-month-old child with Farook’s mother that morning. The couple told the grandmother that they had a doctor’s appointment and needed her to take care of the child, Ayloush said, adding that she had been concerned Farook and his wife might be among the victims when neither of them answered their phones. “I have no idea why he would do something like this,” Farhan Khan, who is married to Farook’s sister, said at a news conference held by CAIR-LA late Wednesday night. The police chief said while they are still searching for a motive, “We have not ruled out terrorism.”
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Post by avordvet on Dec 3, 2015 13:00:32 GMT -5
Ah, it's just more muzzy jihadist 'workplace violence' dear leader keeps preaching about... Police, feds probe terror as possible motive in SoCal massacreDecember 03, 2015, FoxNews.com As chilling details emerged about the Muslim couple who unleashed carnage Wednesday morning in Southern California, storming a social services office in tactical gear and assault rifles, killing 14 at an office gathering before dying hours later in a shootout with police, speculation mounted that the pair left their "IED factory" home hell-bent on jihad. Syed Rizwan Farook, a U.S.-born citizen of Pakistani descent who had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and begun wearing a full beard, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, burst into the San Bernardino facility and shot up a conference room where Farook's employer, the county health department, was hosting a holiday party. The pair escaped in a black SUV after the attack, which authorities said was over within minutes, only to resurface three hours later and less than 2 miles away in a fierce gun battle on the city's main drag. "They came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission," San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said. www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/03/2-suspects-killed-shootout-san-bernardino-massacre-14-killed/
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Post by avordvet on Dec 3, 2015 13:06:54 GMT -5
Just saw the press briefing:
The FBI cannot speculate on a motive?! ... A team of muzzy's attack a soft target, wearing Tac-vests, Building and tossing IEDs, and then shooting it out to the death with LE. Somebody needs to be fired, but as with most obama minions; looks like a promotion and a pay raise is required instead .
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Post by avordvet on Dec 3, 2015 13:36:22 GMT -5
Lets not get stupid and act like the libtards...
Trove of weapons and ammo? Two AR 15s, Two Handguns, some tac gear and the above load out? Gimme a frigging break, X out the 'pipebombs' and thats starter preps for a newby patriot.
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Post by avordvet on Dec 3, 2015 15:26:11 GMT -5
The new norm you have to read the rhetoric. LONG GUNS not rifles or Assault Rifles but LONG GUNS!!!! This may be the next Executive action to ban LONG GUN SALES!!!! Then it will be you do not need hand guns!!!!!! Absolutely, just like the media has married AR/AK = 'Assault Rifle', they have been merging 'Long Gun' = Sniper Rifle for quite awhile. A nibble here a nibble there; People need to lose the short focus, it's ALL guns that they want to ban, down to and including the musket.
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Post by avordvet on Dec 4, 2015 4:54:11 GMT -5
Obama’s Biggest Mistake Will Be Underestimating The Power Of We the PeopleMike Lavery , December 3, 2015 Let me tell you what you may not know. We (the media) knew the shooters were Muslim from around 1pm. We knew Syed Farook was the main suspect. We knew that the international press named him and called the shootings a “terrorist attack.” We knew there was a woman involved by around 3pm. We knew that the authorities knew this too. We knew there were an unknown number of explosives at one or more locations. We also knew that this was, most likely, going to point towards a terrorist attack. We also knew that, if the media knew, then President Barack Obama knew this. So why, a day later, are we still skipping around calling it EXACTLY what this was? Why, a day later, are the authorities not taking all the evidence they have so far and admitting that this is a terrorist attack? Because make no mistake about it. They know what this was. They just won’t admit that the enemy is here and the war has begun. absoluterights.com/obamas-biggest-mistake-will-be-underestimating-the-power-of-we-the-people/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=text1203
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Post by avordvet on Dec 4, 2015 12:57:56 GMT -5
Well imagine that... California Gunman's Wife Pledged Allegiance to ISIS LeaderBy Newsmax Wires, Friday, 04 Dec 2015 11:54 AM One of two people accused of killing 14 in California apparently pledged allegiance to a leader of Islamic State militant group, two U.S. government sources said on Friday, as intelligence officials in her native Pakistan pressed the investigation overseas. Tashfeen Malik, 27, and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, were killed in a shootout with police hours after the Wednesday massacre at the Inland Regional Center social services agency in San Bernardino, about 60 miles (100 km) east of Los Angeles. The attack was the deadliest mass shooting the United States has experienced in three years. www.newsmax.com/Headline/US-California-Shootings/2015/12/03/id/704356/
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Post by avordvet on Dec 7, 2015 14:07:51 GMT -5
WHO’S batshit crazy again, now?5 Dec 2015, by Mike Well said–and one hundred percent true and accurate. You liberals have no more chance of enslaving us by revoking the 2A and disarming us than the Moslem killers do. Come and take them. Just quit your despicable whining and do it already, you puling pissants, if you dare. See what the attempt gets ya. coldfury.com/2015/12/05/whos-batshit-crazy-again-now/
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Post by avordvet on Dec 8, 2015 5:50:44 GMT -5
Post-San Bernardino, Democrat Gun-Control Dishonesty Reads Loud and ClearDecember 8, 2015, By William A. Levinson There are times when a person regrets being proven right, as I was on Wednesday, December 2. My letter to the Citizens' Voice began: Barack Obama seeks to import 10,000 "refugees" from Syria even though they cannot be screened effectively for terrorist backgrounds. That means hundreds of school and workplace shootings (in which case Obama and Joe Sestak will doubtlessly call for more gun control laws), Boston Marathon bombings, and 9/11s.One of the San Bernardino shooters, Tashfeen Malik, passed the Department of Homeland Security screening that the Glorious Leader assures us will keep terrorists out of the country, as shown by this video hosted at WhiteHouse.gov. Now welcome to reality. www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/12/postsan_bernardino_democrat_guncontrol_dishonesty_reads_loud_and_clear.html
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Post by avordvet on Dec 8, 2015 14:32:03 GMT -5
The Gun Debate, ContinuedDebra J. Saunders, Dec 08, 2015 There is something I forgot to mention in my Sunday column about California's gun laws and their failure to stop the San Bernardino terrorist attack last week: I supported California's 1989 assault weapon ban. The bill passed after a vicious elementary schoolyard shooting in Stockton left five children dead. The shooter had an AK-47. Sacramento passed an assault weapon ban that I believed would save lives because it would limit the speed with which a deranged thug could kill. Fact is, I knew next to nothing about guns. I wrongly equated semi-automatic weapons with automatic weapons. I wrongly thought the guns banned in the 1989 law were faster than other semi-automatic long guns. I felt virtuous because at least I was supporting something. townhall.com/columnists/debrajsaunders/2015/12/08/the-gun-debate-continued-n2090562/page/full
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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 12, 2015 8:41:51 GMT -5
h/t BadBlue... freedomoutpost.com/2015/12/as-the-plot-thickens-in-the-san-bernardino-massacre-fbi-discovers-a-massive-network-of-terrorists-involved-showing-how-the-system-is-completely-broken/As The Plot Thickens In The San Bernardino Massacre, FBI Discovers Massive Network Of Terrorists Involved As the plot thickens in the San Bernardino massacre, the FBI is trying to decipher several issues from abuse of the marriage to the immigration system and whether these terrorists had Jihadi brides. Also, who are these Russian girls involved in the marriage scheme? The FBI also believes that Farook had ties to a group of jihadists in California who were arrested in 2012 (which caused a previous attack to be thwarted that Farook was planning) for attempting to travel to Afghanistan to join al Qaeda. Then we have the possible main ringleader, second man Mohamed Abdullahi Hassan (aka Miski, Malik John, Abdul Malik Jones, Abdimalik Jones), who is a Somalian-born permanent resident from Minnesota who was in contact with San Bernardino shooters Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik over social media. Hassan was indicted by the federal government for attempting to recruit people in Minnesota to join al-Shabaab. If this link is proven, here we have another American Muslim citizen involved in a huge massacre that killed over 143 Christians in Kenya. He has admitted to being involved with the Garissa massacre. The attack on Garissa College is one of the worst in Sub-Saharan Africa in recent memory, with reports that the attackers freed Muslim hostages and executed Christians. In addition, as Shoebat.com reported, an “attack in Garland Texas was carried out by ISIS lone wolves” with one named “Elton Simpson,” reportedly one of the two gunmen responsible for the shooting in Garland, Texas, was indeed a homegrown ISIS lone wolf and a convert to Islam, who, in 2010, had links to Hassan. Simpson and his unidentified friend received their orders from an Islamic al-Shabaab terrorist Hassan. And then we have four men who were arrested in the 2012 case, Sohiel Kabir. Kabir, who was convicted and sentenced to 25 years in prison, was the recruiter who helped radicalize others, and Farook was in the social circle of Kabir, which explains why, in 2012, Farook and friends abandoned a plan to carry out a massacre. This is a huge ring of terror.
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Post by walfred on Dec 13, 2015 1:26:41 GMT -5
ISIS is just a tool,as is all other so call terror groups.But,that doesn't change the fact that they are dangerous and they are here.We are looking at a two front war,Islamo terrorist,armed socialist street thugs on one side and the Unlawful FDR gang and there foreign backers on the other.It will be a mixed nuts of enemies of the Republic when it pops off.In other words,a target rich environment.
With the attack in San Bernardino,it's time to secure our backyard!More is coming every soon and it will be much larger,better organized attacks.It's time to find and fix the enemy in your A.O.Know where the threat is,Mosque's,Islamic centers,markets and restaurants that offer authentic middle Eastern foods.These will be small " hole in the wall ",places off the beaten path.Drive by,and take random pics.Look for young males/females 18-35 in 2's and 4's.These will be the most likely to go ballistic.
Good luck,and stay frosty.It's not coming....It's here!
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Post by avordvet on Dec 17, 2015 7:17:30 GMT -5
and in related news...
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