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Post by avordvet on Apr 15, 2014 20:23:09 GMT -5
I've had enough, and that is something to be said; I believe Beck has done an admirable job at awakening millions to the plight of our country's situation, BUT as of now, Mr. Glenn (Gandhi) Beck can kiss my ass! The other day a caller called Beck and said; when is enough, enough? Beck preaches Gandhi, Martin Luther King and George Washington... But even George Washington finally realized that the time for talk was done, and started the American Revolution against a tyrannical government. Even though the usurped American government stands with its boot heel upon the neck of the Republic, with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights torn to shreds, as America and its way of life have reached the breaking point. Beck continues to preach non-violence against the Oath Breaking dirt-bags. As they have drained every drop of liberty and freedom that patriots have fought and died for for 200 years, he preaches non-violence, as they crush us under the boot of tyranny he preaches 'love' for them. Today he spoke his last words that I will heed or even consider. He wishes to belittle those with the nuts to stand and fight for what they believe in... Screw him, and long live the Republic! ‘I’m Planting My Flag’: Glenn Beck Doubles Down on His Message to Those Calling for ViolenceApr. 15, 2014 2:41pm Erica Ritz Glenn Beck has a message for anyone who is “crying for revolution, insurrection … and a call to arms”: He wants nothing to do with you. www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/15/if-you-find-yourself-believing-this-glenn-beck-wants-you-to-unfriend-him/
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Post by brocktownsend on Apr 15, 2014 21:55:45 GMT -5
He can't have revolution, since if we were to return to our Republic, his money flow would be lost.
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Post by avordvet on Apr 16, 2014 4:34:53 GMT -5
He can't have revolution, since if we were to return to our Republic, his money flow would be lost. Brock, I don't think for a second that is the case, you need to make money to continue to get the word out. I have no qualms with Beck for making a living doing what he does. But I cannot support a 'leader', no matter who they are, that belittles citizens putting up the fight of their lives (and their descendants). I have listened to Beck for years, and may continue to listen to him now and then, but I will no longer physically support his organization... as it no longer supports MY views. As I have said before MANY times, Beck had a large part in slowing the slide into totalitarianism, he has awoken MILLIONS to the abuses of our government, but at some time, just like the founders realized, the fight HAS to be moved forward to retake what has been lost. Beck has always been on the peaceful resistance at all costs kick, but sometimes you have to move beyond that in dealing with a corrupt and tyrannical government. Gandhi and MLK were not Gods, they were men who used different techniques at very different times in history, what do you think would have happened to Gandhi and/or MLK if they would have stood in opposition to Stalin or Hitler? I think we all know the results would have been much different, and I can pretty much guarantee that history would not even know their names... because they would have been executed on day one. So don't take my disagreement with Beck on this occasion to believe that I have totally abandoned him, he just needs an 'awakening', and from reading the responses to his statements on the Blaze, he may get his come to Jesus moment sooner than later.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 7:15:41 GMT -5
He can't have revolution, since if we were to return to our Republic, his money flow would be lost. Brock, I don't think for a second that is the case, you need to make money to continue to get the word out. I have no qualms with Beck for making a living doing what he does. But I cannot support a 'leader', no matter who they are, that belittles citizens putting up the fight of their lives (and their descendants). I have listened to Beck for years, and may continue to listen to him now and then, but I will no longer physically support his organization... as it no longer supports MY views. As I have said before MANY times, Beck had a large part in slowing the slide into totalitarianism, he has awoken MILLIONS to the abuses of our government, but at some time, just like the founders realized, the fight HAS to be moved forward to retake what has been lost. Beck has always been on the peaceful resistance at all costs kick, but sometimes you have to move beyond that in dealing with a corrupt and tyrannical government. Gandhi and MLK were not Gods, they were men who used different techniques at very different times in history, what do you think would have happened to Gandhi and/or MLK if they would have stood in opposition to Stalin or Hitler? I think we all know the results would have been much different, and I can pretty much guarantee that history would not even know their names... because they would have been executed on day one. So don't take my disagreement with Beck on this occasion to believe that I have totally abandoned him, he just needs an 'awakening', and from reading the responses to his statements on the Blaze, he may get his come to Jesus moment sooner than later. ^^^^ Agreed.....
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Post by Michael Downing on Apr 16, 2014 11:04:56 GMT -5
T L's latest and relevant in this thread becuase of his statement on Levin and Beck... christianmerc.blogspot.com/2014/04/intemperate-frauds.htmlIntemperate Frauds There are two divided nations known as the United States. The best known is the United States of America. This is the one we all believed in, fought to defend and continue to fight to restore. The other one is the Constitutional United States, where states claim their authority over the federal government. This is the one worth fighting for today. Perhaps, something new will take the place of the once powerful United States of America, perhaps a few other things. What is known is that the current government, actually the employees of the United States of America, no longer faithfully execute their offices. They are frauds, using our funds, pursuing the oppression of the very sustenance of their power. The first skirmish in the ultimate undoing of this currently established nation has taken place at Bunkerville, Nevada on the Bundy Ranch. This is no longer a cohesive society. Those in power are not representatives of the people, they have other masters those big donors, those influence peddlers and money laundering experts. The true fact is simple: powerful people give big money to politicians (not representatives of the people) who become elected to official office, take an oath and immediately violate the oath and use their position to push the campaign contributions back to the powerful donors. It is a way of cycling the money through the U.S. Treasury, returning many times the amount of the contribution. Nowhere in this scheme is the role of the citizen other than to cast ballots. Sure, a road might get paved, a bridge built but by who? The companies headed by those big donors, of course. So, let's drop the pretense. When it comes to individuals like Bundy, there is no one in the federal government who will help. They have too many donors to repay to take up a cause that goes counter to their private promises with the exchange of the envelope. Forget Mark Levin, forget Glenn Beck's handwringing. If Glenn Beck had ever been sincere about his desire to see a re-constituted nation based on liberty and the rule of law, he missed it on the day he had several hundred thousand patriots on the mall in Washington D.C. If he had suggested anything, had any plan to put in place, we all would have taken his lead, but, as usual, he just wanted to talk. On the other hand, we have Cliven Bundy, a man who stood up to the federal government goons long before any of us knew his name. He did it, because he was right and because he has a backbone. Of course he did it to keep things the way they were; to live and die on the ranch founded by his family.
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Post by eagle326 on Apr 16, 2014 14:31:34 GMT -5
This was nothing more than a tactical retreat by the Feds. They'll study the tapes and will be back with another agency or maybe multiple agencies. Harry Reid already said this isn't the end of it.If possible I'd sweep the area for any hidden eye and ear devices even though they have drones.
You can bet they have recordings of most if not all people on Bundy's side of the issue. pictures ; license plates and etc. N.S.A. probably has a ton of cell phone conversations. There should be a standing force left behind if possible to help and protect the Bundy clan. This is a very good test case for the Govt. agencies to war plan in how to bring the population in line and not question the governments authority.
With that being said Bundy needs some people with their own drones to do over flights of surrounding areas to watch for back door entry . It may not be soon but it will happen because they truly believe that the sun is setting on our Republic and it starting to rise on their Socialist empire. Thus they'll be embolden to take the fight to him and whomever is on his side. But then again pride always goes before the fall to those blinded by it. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by avordvet on Apr 16, 2014 14:48:13 GMT -5
This was nothing more than a tactical retreat by the Feds. They'll study the tapes and will be back with another agency or maybe multiple agencies. Harry Reid already said this isn't the end of it.If possible I'd sweep the area for any hidden eye and ear devices even though they have drones. You can bet they have recordings of most if not all people on Bundy's side of the issue. pictures ; license plates and etc. N.S.A. probably has a ton of cell phone conversations. There should be a standing force left behind if possible to help and protect the Bundy clan. This is a very good test case for the Govt. agencies to war plan in how to bring the population in line and not question the governments authority. With that being said Bundy needs some people with their own drones to do over flights of surrounding areas to watch for back door entry . It may not be soon but it will happen because they truly believe that the sun is setting on our Republic and it starting to rise on their Socialist empire. Thus they'll be embolden to take the fight to him and whomever is on his side. But then again pride always goes before the fall to those blinded by it. Just my 2 cents. My friend they have probably been war gaming this one since we first stood up at Gravelly Point in 2010, even then you could tell they weren't used to citizens standing in open defiance, and as long as people continue to stand in the open as free men, we cannot be defeated... as another group WILL take our place if we are silenced. Over the years they have been continually thrown off balance by the brazenness of the American citizen, every time they step forward and try to crush the movement, they have been rebuffed. Although they have the unbridled power of the usurped Federal Government that they can and do use against us (IRS, NSA, ATF, DOJ, EPA scandals), we are still putting it back in their faces... Screw 'em.
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Post by eagle326 on Apr 16, 2014 16:43:03 GMT -5
I agree Avordvet. To me they're probing every time they do one of these operations looking for a weak link in our armor. I believe time is getting short on their side as to getting a new country set up in the sense that they're getting too anxious. They've been turning up the heat on the frog for decades and the leadership is getting impatient for results. Both the older leaders because the want to rule before they die and the younger ones who are chomping at the bit to rule also.
It totally pisses them off to no end that Americans stand up to them and force them to retreat. I think we all know that this will probably cause them to something really stupid believing they have the stronger hand. I hope not but history tells me different. As you stated we are like waves in the ocean ; They get rid of one group but another wave will come crashing in until the tide is turned.
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