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Post by avordvet on Feb 6, 2013 17:15:23 GMT -5
By now everyone should already be topping off the basics... Food, Water, Weapons and Ammo.
You should already have multiple Bug In/Out Plans, You should already be networking and you should already be doing basic tactical movement. There is a big difference in standing there engaging a target and "shootin and scootin".
If you have not already been practicing, get on it. If you don't know how, ask around, I'm sure there are people in most circles that have the skills, you just gotta find 'em.
Whether it be a rouge .gov agency attacking your compound or the local gang-bangers busting into your crib, knowing how to effectively engage them may save your life.
A lot of differences in urban/rural tactics and techniques.
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Post by smokeeater on Feb 6, 2013 17:37:53 GMT -5
These skills need to be first and formost in our preps and training ,it is a Little rough being Feb .in Vermont but weather doesn't care about a training schedule
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Post by hefferman1 on Feb 6, 2013 21:22:56 GMT -5
I need to work on breeching and clearing rooms. I keep working on the other end of that, and need to brush up on it. PS stopping them from doing it is a lot more fun. Tanurite, and a small camping propane tank can be fun to hear go boom. Rumor is it will do serious damage to a stump.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 7, 2013 4:51:18 GMT -5
I need to work on breeching and clearing rooms. Practice how it is done and then practice the counters. I could do some terrible damage to the first few stacks of bad guys. Front, back, sides, up, and down, all have to be thought about and planned for... Afterwards, the house probably wouldn't be habitable for quite awhile, as birds would be able to fly through it from one side to the other.
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Post by walfred on Feb 7, 2013 5:29:38 GMT -5
Yep,one team clears the house and rooms while the other team defends.Then switch,basic Blue force Vs. Red force...The vote stats look good!Real,good!Just what is needed,all are well trained with some first-aid and a few are EMT level Medics.Good!Very good!
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Post by avordvet on Feb 7, 2013 18:42:11 GMT -5
Wait, he thought, wait . . . The front door burst open. He pushed the button, brought his left hand up to the rifle's handguard and began to fire. The BAR was loaded with 21 armor-piercing rounds, one up the spout and twenty in the magazine. He could have used an M-1 Garand (he had twelve in his collection before he parceled them out to his kids as birthday and Christmas presents), but the BAR had a greater magazine capacity and he knew he had to get this bunch in one sweep. The thugs were all wearing military body armor. It didn't help them much. By the time Phil had emptied the magazine, the entire first stack of the raid party, save one, was dead or dying. Some of the tungsten steel AP handloads had penetrated two thugs at once. Night vision devices splintered, kevlar helmets split, the trauma plates of their body armor were fractured and holed and their illusions of invincibility were swept away along with their sorry lives.
Save for the moans of the dying and the yelps of the wounded punk crab-scuttling away from the porch, it was silent when Phil reloaded, stood and ran to the rear entry window that flanked the back door. The rear stack was splattered all over the flower garden that Claire had planted with such devotion and love, some of them screaming, moaning, moving.The Battle of Sipsey Street sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/10/absolved-chapter-one-battle-of-sipsey.html
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Post by hefferman1 on Feb 8, 2013 23:35:08 GMT -5
Wait, he thought, wait . . . The front door burst open. He pushed the button, brought his left hand up to the rifle's handguard and began to fire. The BAR was loaded with 21 armor-piercing rounds, one up the spout and twenty in the magazine. He could have used an M-1 Garand (he had twelve in his collection before he parceled them out to his kids as birthday and Christmas presents), but the BAR had a greater magazine capacity and he knew he had to get this bunch in one sweep. The thugs were all wearing military body armor. It didn't help them much. By the time Phil had emptied the magazine, the entire first stack of the raid party, save one, was dead or dying. Some of the tungsten steel AP handloads had penetrated two thugs at once. Night vision devices splintered, kevlar helmets split, the trauma plates of their body armor were fractured and holed and their illusions of invincibility were swept away along with their sorry lives.
Save for the moans of the dying and the yelps of the wounded punk crab-scuttling away from the porch, it was silent when Phil reloaded, stood and ran to the rear entry window that flanked the back door. The rear stack was splattered all over the flower garden that Claire had planted with such devotion and love, some of them screaming, moaning, moving.The Battle of Sipsey Street sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/10/absolved-chapter-one-battle-of-sipsey.html A nice bed time story to warm my heart. After spending all day in the freezing rain, and wind for an estate sale, my heart may be the only thing that has warmed up so far. Yesterday was very nice, 60 sunny, and warm. Today the temp was 12 colder then they said it would be on the weather channel, and the wind was worse. I was dumb and did not dress as needed. I froze my behind off today.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 9, 2013 4:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2013 15:07:56 GMT -5
Don, could you post a link to a site where range cards could be printed full size?
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Post by avordvet on Feb 9, 2013 17:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Feb 10, 2013 13:49:00 GMT -5
The one which tells how to draw out a range card is very good. That is the step by step way to do it. If you are having trouble knowing distance with a mil-dot scope, a laser range finder comes in handy. The proper way to check distance (Range Something) with a Mil-Dot scope is found here. www.barska.com/mil_bc203.pdfor here. www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Distances-With-a-Mil-Dot-Rifle-ScopeYou can also practice range estimation by finding a hide type spot, and estimating range and checking it with a laser range finder, or Mil Dot Scope. Practice this when you go on a hike, or even just go out to a field and do it. Before long you will become good at range estimation. When you have to take a shot, do the math, unless you know the range, because you has set up a range card. It will make the difference when you need to make that shot count.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 12, 2013 5:51:36 GMT -5
Less than half in survey doing field work and/or Urban training... what are you waiting for, opfor to line up in a row at 100 yds? Urban Warfare Transforms the CorpsBy 2020, 85% of the world's inhabitants will be crowded into coastal cities--cities generally lacking the infrastructure required to support their burgeoning populations. Under these conditions, long-simmering ethnic, nationalist, and economic tensions will explode and increase the potential of crises requiring U.S. intervention."[1] Likely U.S. enemies include a wide array of possibilities: al Qaeda terrorists; dictatorial strongmen; drug cartels; or perhaps tribal/ethnic strife leading to humanitarian crises. These potential adversaries realize that fighting high-tech U.S. forces in open terrain is suicidal, and thus enemies will tend to operate in cities and towns, attempting to use the urban terrain to neutralize U.S. technology. Therefore, it appears the most likely type of future conflict will be urban warfare." www.military.com/NewContent/1,13190,NI_1104_Urban-P1,00.html
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Post by Cujo on Feb 12, 2013 6:02:29 GMT -5
Field training in Rural areas has been 100%, have done 0% in Urban settings.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 12, 2013 6:13:53 GMT -5
Field training in Rural areas has been 100%, have done 0% in Urban settings. Understand the Priority should be on training for your "operational area", BUT one doesn't have to be IN an Urban setting to train for it, all it takes is a house... or actually one room to start such training. Just come up with a plan to TAKE your house room by room, with multiple variations considering Murphy's Laws... then practice it, learning to take and hold one structure is pretty much the same as taking and holding another. The tactics are known world wide and there are MANY books, Vids and People out there that can help... ya just gotta find 'em and actually USE 'Em.
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Post by avordvet on Feb 12, 2013 15:14:51 GMT -5
FM 3-21-94 CHAPTER 6 URBAN ENVIRONMENTAmerican and foreign doctrines reflect that military training must give more attention to urban combat. Urban areas are the power centers, and urban terrain is expected to be the most common type of area of operations for future American forces throughout the world. Recent deployments in Panama, Somalia, Kosovo, and Bosnia, as well as developments in Afghanistan, have shown the need for units to be proficient in warfighting in urban and complex terrain. The increasing focus on urban terrorism and civil disorder emphasizes that combat in built-up areas is unavoidable. Expanding urban development affects military operations as the terrain is altered. Urban and complex close terrain pose significant problems for all types of military forces, but platoons and squads in the SBCT must be capable of leveraging combat power to achieve decisive results. The increased population and accelerated growth of cities have made the problems of combat in built-up areas an urgent requirement for the US Army. This chapter discusses the tools necessary for understanding the urban environment and for planning and executing missions, including reconnaissance, in the urban area. www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-21-94/c06.htm
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Post by avordvet on Feb 12, 2013 15:38:51 GMT -5
One thing to keep in mind; movement through an urban area will require different skills, equipment and "camouflage".
Just as with rural terrain, urban "terrain" shifts constantly... Take the local "terrain" in the city of Atlanta with the heavily populated Buckhead district (yuppies of all ilk) verses highly populated East Point (gang-bangers and home-boys), each on opposite ends of the economics/crime range.
Carrying that Barrett .50 while decked out on woodland BDU's through either place is gonna get you noticed, but that M4 broken down and stuffed in a civilian style pack... not so much.
Just as you would learn the local Rural terrain before operating there, you must also learn the Urban "terrain", especially if you have never "operated" in that type of environment before.
As noted in the posted articles, the conflicts of the future will almost surly involve urban areas instead of Rural.
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