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Post by midnightrider on Jan 2, 2013 13:26:42 GMT -5
Until we can, or do, we can beat our chests all we want and we will keep getting the same results. 0. All the while my/our country slips/falls away at an alarming rate. Is anyone brain storming this? The further we get away from the Constitution the farther we have to get back to it. Getting tired and the balloon hasn't even went up yet.
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Post by smokeeater on Jan 2, 2013 13:32:14 GMT -5
We need to wake up now ,new bills are flowing down the pike starting this thursday with the new congress (or should I say new circus )these marxists are all in on this bs
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Post by avordvet on Jan 2, 2013 13:34:29 GMT -5
Until we can, or do, we can beat our chests all we want and we will keep getting the same results. 0. All the while my/our country slips/falls away at an alarming rate. Is anyone brain storming this? The further we get away from the Constitution the farther we have to get back to it. Getting tired and the balloon hasn't even went up yet. Rantings We've been waiting on the rest of you to join us at the PATCONS and many other events, where we are... get this... "uniting". Damn sucks being tail end charlie, huh?
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Post by midnightrider on Jan 2, 2013 13:51:18 GMT -5
Must be in the wrong place.
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 2, 2013 14:56:02 GMT -5
Personally getting the groups to pull together nation wide is going to be tough. Heck statewide and local has been tough enough. I think groups will pull together but it may only be after the smoke clears from initial encounters. Personally I think local, local, local is the way to go. Update your contact lists for those you can trust around your state and around the nation and stay in touch with each other until that time...
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Post by Cujo on Jan 2, 2013 17:04:54 GMT -5
Personally getting the groups to pull together nation wide is going to be tough. Heck statewide and local has been tough enough. I think groups will pull together but it may only be after the smoke clears from initial encounters. Personally I think local, local, local is the way to go. Update your contact lists for those you can trust around your state and around the nation and stay in touch with each other until that time... It has to start locally, if for nothing else if all comms were to go down. In that case we should be Green & ready to rock-n-roll. It has to be locally, because locally will be each states front line for unity and supply line from the local supporters.
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Post by walfred on Jan 2, 2013 17:22:44 GMT -5
The key is building many small groups that will grow exponentially when SHTF!Just as,BHO is the greatest gun salesman in history.Martial LW will start the greatest Militia recruitment drive since 1776.The need isn't for thousands of groups with hundreds of members,but millions of gun owners prepared to unite for freedom.
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Post by hefferman1 on Jan 2, 2013 17:32:25 GMT -5
Personally getting the groups to pull together nation wide is going to be tough. Heck statewide and local has been tough enough. I think groups will pull together but it may only be after the smoke clears from initial encounters. Personally I think local, local, local is the way to go. Update your contact lists for those you can trust around your state and around the nation and stay in touch with each other until that time... I think a lot o the friction will disappear when the balloon goes up. The all talk people will fade away. That alone will end a lot of the friction. When you are facing trouble, some who argued before will shut up and listen. We will also pull together, because our differences will look very small when compared against what we will face. I will be honest. I am waiting for them to step 1 inch too far. Then I go to Shakespeare, "Cry, HAVOC!! and Let Slip the DOGS of WAR!!!!"
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Post by southwind on Jan 2, 2013 18:30:29 GMT -5
Network-network-network. Six degrees of separation, right? Everyone has some contacts, we build from there. That is both realistic and some degree of safe.
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Post by safetalker on Jan 2, 2013 18:37:34 GMT -5
You build a house from the foundation up. To get unity you have to accept everybody. To accept everybody the words of division must be taken off our hearts, our, minds, and our lips. There are some who want freedom, but think the word Militia is derogatory. There are members of the Militia who think that anyone who is not a member of the Militia as probably snitches. There are people who want to help, but they have governmnet jobs and know their boss would fire them if they0 found out they were associating with folks like me and you. To make this unity work we need to stat with just our own block of town. When we have a unified neighborhood we need to go for a unified Town, County, State. Like the old adage: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. To get this unity you just need to be sincere, truthful, and friendly with every type of person you meet. Time is short. The Thugs are organizing, the gangs are organizing, and the People are organizing. If you find a right to choose person who also wants to be free take them. If you find an Obama supporter and they want to be free Take them. If you get a limp wristed cross dresser who wants to be free to decide Take them. They can all hold a rifle and as long as it is point the right direction the bullet will forgive their deviation from the prime.
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Post by walfred on Jan 2, 2013 19:03:46 GMT -5
The numbers are coming!A basic structure in every A.O. is all that's needed now...The waiting is killing me!
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Post by dirtfarmer on Jan 2, 2013 19:11:02 GMT -5
Gosh darn! Safetalker gets it right again.
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Post by Michael Downing on Jan 2, 2013 19:42:37 GMT -5
To get this unity you just need to be sincere, truthful, and friendly with every type of person you meet. Time is short. The Thugs are organizing, the gangs are organizing, and the People are organizing. If you find a right to choose person who also wants to be free take them. If you find an Obama supporter and they want to be free Take them. If you get a limp wristed cross dresser who wants to be free to decide Take them. They can all hold a rifle and as long as it is point the right direction the bullet will forgive their deviation from the prime.
Agreed. I have a gentleman who works with me who strongly supported Obama both times. He is a gun owner but seldom if ever carried it and kept it locked up at home for "safety". I have been talking to him from day one where I stood but never made a big deal over his support of Obama but honestly told him how I felt and where I thought we were heading. Just a week ago he came and started asking me about concealed carry and possibly losing his right to keep his gun. I recommended he take the concealed carry class. He said he didn't know if he should carry it with him. I simply told him to take the class listen and learn and make up his mind. Once he had the concealed carry permit he could still carry or not depending on how he felt. I told him my wife took it but it took awhile before she got comfortable with carrying which she now does almost everywhere.
He came to me and said he and his brother-in-law both decided to take the class. I hooked him up with information from an instructor I know. Build it one person at a time.
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Post by smokeeater on Jan 2, 2013 20:41:32 GMT -5
Great read Michael the tide is turning a little at a time
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Post by hefferman1 on Jan 3, 2013 0:14:53 GMT -5
You build a house from the foundation up. To get unity you have to accept everybody. To accept everybody the words of division must be taken off our hearts, our, minds, and our lips. There are some who want freedom, but think the word Militia is derogatory. There are members of the Militia who think that anyone who is not a member of the Militia as probably snitches. There are people who want to help, but they have governmnet jobs and know their boss would fire them if they0 found out they were associating with folks like me and you. To make this unity work we need to stat with just our own block of town. When we have a unified neighborhood we need to go for a unified Town, County, State. Like the old adage: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. To get this unity you just need to be sincere, truthful, and friendly with every type of person you meet. Time is short. The Thugs are organizing, the gangs are organizing, and the People are organizing. If you find a right to choose person who also wants to be free take them. If you find an Obama supporter and they want to be free Take them. If you get a limp wristed cross dresser who wants to be free to decide Take them. They can all hold a rifle and as long as it is point the right direction the bullet will forgive their deviation from the prime. Bull Crap. This not taking a stand, is what got us in this mess to start with. If you do not support the Republic and think a little government over reach is OK. Then take a red hot poker and shove it. This kumbaya PC garbage, is what kept too many people asleep for too long. It is time to take a dump, or get off the pot. Sorry if it hurts your PC feelings, but this will be a fight to the death, and making room for someone who is half way will do nothing, but get you, them, and other people killed. That goes for the looney libs, and the neo-nazi peter puffers. The is about preserving freedom, and the Republic, not about worring if you offend george the cross dresser.
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Post by avordvet on Jan 3, 2013 4:59:50 GMT -5
Everyone cannot be brought into the tent as the GOP is now learning... and the Aryan Nation doesn't like Obama either, doesn't mean I'm gonna go over and throw 'em a sloppy kiss, shave my head and drop my principles.
People network with who they feel comfortable. There are many groups networking here in GA, some fairly substantial, we "know" of each other, and although we aren't currently coordinating, that will happen when the time is right.
Same for the Militia's around the country, many I know have their contact information, they just haven't actively pursued it, but when the time comes I think the ranks will be burgeoning.
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Post by safetalker on Jan 3, 2013 9:10:02 GMT -5
Well Hefferman then lets drop unity and say what we really want. We want people just like us in our area who believe just like we do and who may even look like us and the rest of you people are the enemy. This nation according to our Constitution is a nation of laws based upon the Common Law. That is what I describe above. The Pilgrims came here in the early 1600's to be free to worship in a different manner than was permitted in Europe under the accepted Christian doctrines. They came here to live a life under their way of worship and living. We have allowed their dedication to god to be foreclosed upon by our 501C3 churches. Many of what I described above in stereo types were just singular examples of our society. Yet they offended you and many more by my description. However each and every one of them under our Constitution as written are lawfully entitled to share our freedom. Thus they are not only guaranteed the same rights but also the responsibilities to defend this nation. The gay rights movement had one goal and that was to be attractive to the type personality that wants attention. Today they dress and flounce in unnatural ways just to irritate you and I who feel their actions are sinful. Yet we sit in our pews and condemn them while praying to a man who was once quoted as saying "Let the man without sin cast the first stone". He did not say "This Sin". When we can sit around a table and share a beer with all of the types I mentioned above we will have the unity we require to displace Obama and his minions in Government. I did not say those who support him, but those in Government. This is not a war between the different thoughts of people who live in America as the Media and the Government would have you believe by their coverage of events both hosted and random. This is a war between the slaves (US) and the Slave masters (THEM). One thing we needed to learn in Iraq and Afghanistan is the way every man was a part of the local Militia. While many were in opposing Theological Militias that killed and raped at will against the other Theological Militias when an external militia or army or the Governmnet entered they fought as one in defense of the Village, Neighborhood, or area. While not a good plan it has worked there since the Crusades. So we all need to decide what is important. Our freedom or our identification of differences and how they offend us, our god, or our sensibilities.
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Post by hefferman1 on Jan 3, 2013 11:09:49 GMT -5
Well Hefferman then lets drop unity and say what we really want. We want people just like us in our area who believe just like we do and who may even look like us and the rest of you people are the enemy. This nation according to our Constitution is a nation of laws based upon the Common Law. That is what I describe above. The Pilgrims came here in the early 1600's to be free to worship in a different manner than was permitted in Europe under the accepted Christian doctrines. They came here to live a life under their way of worship and living. We have allowed their dedication to god to be foreclosed upon by our 501C3 churches. Many of what I described above in stereo types were just singular examples of our society. Yet they offended you and many more by my description. However each and every one of them under our Constitution as written are lawfully entitled to share our freedom. Thus they are not only guaranteed the same rights but also the responsibilities to defend this nation. The gay rights movement had one goal and that was to be attractive to the type personality that wants attention. Today they dress and flounce in unnatural ways just to irritate you and I who feel their actions are sinful. Yet we sit in our pews and condemn them while praying to a man who was once quoted as saying "Let the man without sin cast the first stone". He did not say "This Sin". When we can sit around a table and share a beer with all of the types I mentioned above we will have the unity we require to displace Obama and his minions in Government. I did not say those who support him, but those in Government. This is not a war between the different thoughts of people who live in America as the Media and the Government would have you believe by their coverage of events both hosted and random. This is a war between the slaves (US) and the Slave masters (THEM). One thing we needed to learn in Iraq and Afghanistan is the way every man was a part of the local Militia. While many were in opposing Theological Militias that killed and raped at will against the other Theological Militias when an external militia or army or the Governmnet entered they fought as one in defense of the Village, Neighborhood, or area. While not a good plan it has worked there since the Crusades. So we all need to decide what is important. Our freedom or our identification of differences and how they offend us, our god, or our sensibilities. Sorry to burst your buble, but tyrants, and wannabe tyrants only give power up to force. Singing kumbaya at a table and filing paper work they will ignore will get you no where, but a one way trip to a 6 foot deep hole. You study a lot of things. I think it would serve you well to go study where movementls, like the ones you mentioned, got their money, and other backing. Here is a hint, the communist in Europe. It was done to distablize the US. Go ahead and set at the camp fire and sing along with them, waste your precious time, if you want. I for one will prepare to go fight the coming battles, as long as I can.
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Post by hefferman1 on Jan 3, 2013 11:15:17 GMT -5
Everyone cannot be brought into the tent as the GOP is now learning... and the Aryan Nation doesn't like Obama either, doesn't mean I'm gonna go over and throw 'em a sloppy kiss, shave my head and drop my principles. People network with who they feel comfortable. There are many groups networking here in GA, some fairly substantial, we "know" of each other, and although we aren't currently coordinating, that will happen when the time is right. Same for the Militia's around the country, many I know have their contact information, they just haven't actively pursued it, but when the time comes I think the ranks will be burgeoning. I agree. Skin color, will not matter where I am concerned. I will even gladly forgive past ideological mistakes, if you truly change. However I will not compromise with some evil to gain numbers, wether that evil is from either side.
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