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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 14, 2012 15:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by aronatbc on Dec 14, 2012 16:11:16 GMT -5
Prayers up.
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Post by dragon on Dec 14, 2012 16:43:35 GMT -5
As I knelt praying, my thoughts were directed and my anger was quelled momentarily and a cold sadness covered me. For those of you that do not know me, I fight to debunk conspiracies. And until today there were just a few I subscribe to: The murder of JFK by LBJ, Obama is an Illegal Muslim Alien, He literally Stole the election through fraud, And Obama is out to destroy the American way of life. But this afternoon my thoughts hit something that made me physically ill as Iwas praying when Mr Despicable came upon the screen... This was not a random act, Neither was the Oregon shooting. This is a closely orchestrated event to bring in a heavy handed ban on assault weapons and firearms in general. The first thing the media reported was the use of high capacity magazines, and that the round used was a "223"... I fear my friends that THESE are the shots that are once again, heard around the world. And this time they are not for the good of the American people.
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 14, 2012 16:55:17 GMT -5
The first thing the media reported was the use of high capacity magazines, and that the round used was a "223".
Don't doubt that for a minute as I'm sure they have their talking points prepared for when a shooting does occur. The report I read said that his rifle was in the car. Now, if there had been armed people among the administration, it would have made a difference.
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Post by aronatbc on Dec 14, 2012 17:03:01 GMT -5
Shooter today had two pistols. Reportedly, both 9mm.
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Post by aronatbc on Dec 14, 2012 17:05:58 GMT -5
I work in a school district. IT. We do "lock down" drills that are essentially useless. Only by allowing those Teachers and Staff, who choose to do so, to arm themselves will events like this be mitigated.
Look for government to do the exact opposite. Be prepared to fight them however you can. And if our worst fears come to pass...
Stand and fight.
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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 14, 2012 17:22:59 GMT -5
In my world I would require that all teachers and school administrators get a concealed carry permit and then qualify each semester.Parents with concealed carry permits would be encouraged to carry to and from and in the school. I would post a billboard at the entrance to the school grounds stating the carry policy. I would make mandatory safe handling of firearms classes and optional marksmanship classes at the on grounds range. Disarming the population makes the environment less safe for the law abiding citizens and safer for the criminals and crazies out there.
I wish there would be no politicizing of this but the gun control crowd cannot help but try to use it to their advantage. the President already called for meaningful action to guarantee that this does not happen again.
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Post by smokeeater on Dec 14, 2012 17:38:59 GMT -5
What a tragedy, to all victims and there familys God be with you . Now to the low life scum in the msm who push an agenda when no one has yet been removed from the school with false reports on gun laws do your homework before reporting
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 14, 2012 17:49:32 GMT -5
In my world I would require that all teachers and school administrators get a concealed carry permit and then qualify each semester.Parents with concealed carry permits would be encouraged to carry to and from and in the school. I would post a billboard at the entrance to the school grounds stating the carry policy. I would make mandatory safe handling of firearms classes and optional marksmanship classes at the on grounds range. Disarming the population makes the environment less safe for the law abiding citizens and safer for the criminals and crazies out there. I wish there would be no politicizing of this but the gun control crowd cannot help but try to use it to their advantage. the President already called for meaningful action to guarantee that this does not happen again. Well said . =============== The Federal Government is Guilty Accomplice in School Shooting in Newtown Connecticut freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-federal-government-is-guilty.html
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 14, 2012 18:52:32 GMT -5
In my world I would require that all teachers and school administrators get a concealed carry permit and then qualify each semester.Parents with concealed carry permits would be encouraged to carry to and from and in the school. I would post a billboard at the entrance to the school grounds stating the carry policy. I would make mandatory safe handling of firearms classes and optional marksmanship classes at the on grounds range. Disarming the population makes the environment less safe for the law abiding citizens and safer for the criminals and crazies out there. I wish there would be no politicizing of this but the gun control crowd cannot help but try to use it to their advantage. the President already called for meaningful action to guarantee that this does not happen again. From Stu: Mark my words. There will be a call for TSA to move in to the schools and massive jobs program to do it, or something like it, funding, of not the gov doing it. ========= I replied. Hadn't thought of that and don't give them any ideas. Here is what should be done, from my friend Michael. In my world I would require that all teachers and school administrators get a concealed carry permit and then qualify each semester.Parents with concealed carry permits would be encouraged to carry to and from and in the school. I would post a billboard at the entrance to the school grounds stating the carry policy. I would make mandatory safe handling of firearms classes and optional marksmanship classes at the on grounds range. Disarming the population makes the environment less safe for the law abiding citizens and safer for the criminals and crazies out there.
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Post by Cujo on Dec 14, 2012 19:40:27 GMT -5
My prayers to all involved in this tragedy.
We can feel sorrow and be protectionist at the same time, in the upcoming days and weeks we will have to be vigilant in the protection of our rights.
There was a comment on a blog that said, because of a rapist does that mean all penis's have to be cut off?!?
This is nothing more than an agenda, to remove our ability to stand against "Tyranny", plain and simple.
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Post by safetalker on Dec 14, 2012 19:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Dec 15, 2012 10:34:58 GMT -5
Israel faced terrorist with real assault rifles going after children in schools. The Israeli authorities taught the teachers how to shot, and armed them.
Israel doesn't have school shootings anymore.
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 15, 2012 12:52:17 GMT -5
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Post by southwind on Dec 15, 2012 14:22:14 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be "interesting" if conservatives would begin an immediate and aggressive push to end gun free zones. That is, instead of waiting passively for the other side to go on the attack?
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 15, 2012 17:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by hefferman1 on Dec 15, 2012 17:49:42 GMT -5
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 15, 2012 17:55:29 GMT -5
Excellent. Thanks.
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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 15, 2012 19:26:05 GMT -5
That is, instead of waiting passively for the other side to go on the attack?
The other side is aggressively attacking and has been from the moment this tragedy happened (see below). The so called may well cave in and many support them because of the number of young children killed. Expect the debate to come on strong for high capacity magazines to be banned along with assault weapons and semi automatic weapons. A poll Fox put up showed after the last few shootings the split was roughly 47% for gun control, 46% against with 7% undecided but those shootings did not take 20 6&7 year old children. We must put the pressure on our "representatives" because the other side has already begun to mobilize against your 2nd amendment rights...
Dear MoveOn member,
On December 14, 2012, a gunman entered the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut and opened fire, killing what is currently being reported as a minimum of 27 people, 20 of whom were children. Completely innocent unarmed victims.
Columbine. Red Lake, Minnesota. Essex, Vermont. Lancaster, Ohio. Virginia Tech. To name a few.
How many more innocents must die at the hands of an antiquated and oft-misinterpreted amendment? Enough.
It's time to stop the violence. That's why I created a petition on SignOn.org to Congress and President Obama, which says:
Our Second Amendment rights are long overdue a reevaluation. How many more senseless and entirely PREVENTABLE shootings have to occur before we do something about gun control?
As a citizen and constituent of this great country, I am asking that you take a firm stand and make a positive change by restricting access to guns and saving lives.
I don't have a gun. I don't want a gun. I don't need a gun. But somehow the guns always wind up in the hands of people crazy enough to use them irresponsibly and dangerously. THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED. Click here to add your name to this petition, and then pass it along to your friends.
Thank you for your support.
–Staci Sarkin
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Post by walfred on Dec 15, 2012 19:47:05 GMT -5
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 15, 2012 19:58:20 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Downing on Dec 15, 2012 21:41:53 GMT -5
Brock I agree with you but I am afraid we just might be out numbered on this one. Most of if not all of the obamanites who voted him in will support strict gun control and many soft conservatives will bend and allow tighter controls for the children and we will be one step closer to being unarmed...
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 15, 2012 21:59:32 GMT -5
Brock I agree with you but I am afraid we just might be out numbered on this one. Most of if not all of the obamanites who voted him in will support strict gun control and many soft conservatives will bend and allow tighter controls for the children and we will be one step closer to being unarmed... Certainly possible, though I am encouraged by the number of calls for arming teachers. This needs to be put forward forcefully as a better solution (obviously) than more worthless gun laws.
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Post by smokeeater on Dec 16, 2012 0:51:49 GMT -5
Brock I agree with you but I am afraid we just might be out numbered on this one. Most of if not all of the obamanites who voted him in will support strict gun control and many soft conservatives will bend and allow tighter controls for the children and we will be one step closer to being unarmed... Certainly possible, though I am encouraged by the number of calls for arming teachers. This needs to be put forward forcefully as a better solution (obviously) than more worthless gun laws. Also today a lot of talk of the mental state of the shooter and our nimble mental health care system in this country as was stated on another site over 3000 people were killed on 9/11 and not one gun was used .
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Post by smokeeater on Dec 16, 2012 1:28:39 GMT -5
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Post by Cujo on Dec 16, 2012 9:26:19 GMT -5
The public will never hear stories that go against their agenda.
Which is the problem, Gun Control or the Agenda?
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Post by brocktownsend on Dec 16, 2012 12:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by Cujo on Dec 16, 2012 16:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by aronatbc on Dec 17, 2012 10:28:16 GMT -5
I got the same exact email, verbatim, from the MN Move-On coordinator. Word for word except the name.
There is a concerted effort going on to disarm us. They have put these pieces in place and done nothing to stop the inevitable. Now they have their issue. Now they will try to press the advantage.
They must not succeed.
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Post by aronatbc on Dec 17, 2012 10:30:22 GMT -5
We need new laws, but laws as you stated so well yesterday. We need laws repealed. Not new laws. Gun Free killing zones need to become a failed experiment of the past. Instead, they will try to turn the entire Country into a "gun free zone". That will not end well.
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