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Post by avordvet on Apr 25, 2011 5:55:17 GMT -5
When they pull these traitors from their Govt perches, there should only be one thing that awaits them...The Gallows “There’s Going to be Fighting in the Streets”April 25, 2011 by randyedye For goodness sakes, what in the world do we need to do to get a law enforcement officer to come in and enforce the law? Now I’m clear. This is not going to come from a grand jury. We have one option left, as I see it, which is that thousands, tens of thousands, and then tens of thousands more people come forward and they name Mr. Obama in the treason that he’s committing with his criminal partners. If that doesn’t happen, then there’s going to be one confrontation after the next, and I see as one of the first of those as mine. And I’m ready for them.... Wanna get pissed? Read the whole story... then take action and pass on to any you believe will step froward and fight back: randysright.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/%E2%80%9Cthere%E2%80%99s-going-to-be-fighting-in-the-streets%E2%80%9D/
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 25, 2011 9:45:27 GMT -5
I have always said use the four boxes.
1. The Soap Box Speaking out against injustices and illegal actions.
We can still do this, even if they control the media. We can teach our children right and wrong, and to see through the socialist teaching at school. For how long will we still have free speech?
2. The Ballot Box Voting for and supporting who will defend our God given Inalienable Rights.
Illegals are voting, Socialist are creating votes and voting for dead people. They manufactured 300 votes and then found them in a truck of a car weeks later in MN.
Our votes are being nullified by improper and illegal votes now.
3. Jury Box Jury nullification as a way of stopping improper prosecutions against people defending their liberties.
If they control the courts with activist judges, set who is on the jury, and even manufacture evidence like in the Olofson case we have lost the Jury Box.
4. Cartridge Box The last choice of a freeman to remain free when facing government seizure of power.
We are approaching the time when we have only one option. It is time to prepare for the fight that is coming.
"All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war." -- Glen Beck, August 2009.
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Post by Cujo on Apr 25, 2011 11:06:17 GMT -5
Agreed, we have been betrayed but elected officials, they do the thinking for us. The unfortunate part of this story is most people will not revolt to defend our way of life, the Constitution.
But once gas get to be around $6 a gal. plus, their cells or Internet is shut off maybe that will get them in a rage. But it won't be the saving Constitution that gets them involved.
It will be 3% of us that are welling to sacrifice for love of country, for nothing more than just that. Love of country & what it is suppose to represent.
It will be those of us that understands & will honor our Oaths. There will be many Alamo's & we must be ready to assist, we will need the Patriots in these Alamo's to survive.
just my .02
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 25, 2011 17:38:07 GMT -5
Agreed, we have been betrayed but elected officials, they do the thinking for us. The unfortunate part of this story is most people will not revolt to defend our way of life, the Constitution. But once gas get to be around $6 a gal. plus, their cells or Internet is shut off maybe that will get them in a rage. But it won't be the saving Constitution that gets them involved. It will be 3% of us that are welling to sacrifice for love of country, for nothing more than just that. Love of country & what it is suppose to represent. It will be those of us that understands & will honor our Oaths. There will be many Alamo's & we must be ready to assist, we will need the Patriots in these Alamo's to survive. just my .02 There maybe a few Alamo's, however there will also be some San Jacinto's. There will also be some "Long Marches". "The Nationalist will be our supply train" Mao
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Post by Cujo on Apr 25, 2011 17:44:09 GMT -5
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Post by jimbravo on Apr 25, 2011 20:48:01 GMT -5
I have always said use the four boxes. 1. The Soap Box Speaking out against injustices and illegal actions. We can still do this, even if they control the media. We can teach our children right and wrong, and to see through the socialist teaching at school. For how long will we still have free speech? 2. The Ballot Box Voting for and supporting who will defend our God given Inalienable Rights. Illegals are voting, Socialist are creating votes and voting for dead people. They manufactured 300 votes and then found them in a truck of a car weeks later in MN. Our votes are being nullified by improper and illegal votes now. 3. Jury Box Jury nullification as a way of stopping improper prosecutions against people defending their liberties. If they control the courts with activist judges, set who is on the jury, and even manufacture evidence like in the Olofson case we have lost the Jury Box. 4. Cartridge Box The last choice of a freeman to remain free when facing government seizure of power. We are approaching the time when we have only one option. It is time to prepare for the fight that is coming. "All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war." -- Glen Beck, August 2009. I believe that quote was from the other Beck, Billy Beck. www.two--four.net/weblog.php
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Post by brocktownsend on Apr 25, 2011 21:36:25 GMT -5
Billy Beck
Correct.
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Post by the1badger on Apr 26, 2011 9:50:11 GMT -5
I still don't understand what the hell we are waiting for: 1. Obama is not / cannot be a legit president 2. We are being taxed at at rate of more than 50% of our income 3. Our .gov has now put in place a two party system - WE and THEM 4. WE the people are being ignored
...we really do not need any more reason. Not to incite violence or rebellion or a revolution or anything...
...but...what the hell are we waiting for?
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Post by aronatbc on Apr 26, 2011 10:25:36 GMT -5
It hasn't been about needing an excuse since before the Branch Davidian's got barbequed. It's all about opportunity at this point.
Be careful though, that first step can be a doozy...
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 26, 2011 11:37:58 GMT -5
We need to force them to make the first mistake as that will galvanize the support of the American people.
It sounds harsh and Machiavellian, but it is true.
Sorry for giving the wrong name on the quote, it was Billy Beck, not Glen Beck.
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Post by aronatbc on Apr 26, 2011 14:22:24 GMT -5
Agreed. Using a bit of political judo to get them to make that one over-step would be ideal.
However, how many "over steps" do they need to make? How many more Red's Trading Posts? How many more Elian Gonzalez's? How many more Alberto Sepulveda's? How many more David Olfson's? Does my wife need to be the next Vicky Weaver?
We have the support we are going to have, and that is all. We are 3%, at best, and we are either enough to win our Country back... Or we're just tap dancing in the Warsaw Ghetto.
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Post by safetalker on Apr 26, 2011 15:49:59 GMT -5
The question you asked is what will it take. The answer is as complicated as the question is. There is a point for every man, woman, and child where the lucid, mature, thinking human will throw down the yoke and say "NO MORE". For this to become a battle cry will require that everyone, or at least a majority, agree and that is the catch point. In King George's time we were rubbed raw by the local commanders who were being pushed by their superiors to increase the tax collection. Today however the new King George has battalions of people studying just how to keep the Slaves working and paying taxes while not reaching that point of rebellion. While every once in a while one will rebel they are considered nuts and sent away for retraining. The other reaction we see on the web pages is a call for everyone to take up arms against 'them'. Who are 'them"? You can not raise an army to attack unknown people for committing unknown acts. At least not with rational human beings. This thought pattern is quickly squelched by a 'Patriot for hire' doing a show where he keeps the fervor just below the level needed to 'throw down the Yoke'. If we want to change anything we will have to stop worshiping at the feet of the Fox News crews, the internet Radio hosts, and begin to reread the documents we hear them 'quote'. Facts will work much better than fervor. Truth will convince much better than Paid Patriot quotes of 1776. Knowledge is the most powerful weapon in any true Patriots Cartridge box. Without truth, base upon understanding the facts and sharing that knowledge the rest is just a sick game.
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Post by aronatbc on Apr 27, 2011 7:40:50 GMT -5
Safetalker, We're at that point. We're saying "no more!"
Their response is apparently, "So what? What do you think you can do about it?"
About as many people out there know the "truth" as care to.
So, again... Now what? The question is rhetorical. We know the "What" and the "Why". Now each of us needs to fill in the rest for themselves, "Who", "Where", "How", "When".
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Post by safetalker on Apr 27, 2011 8:06:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately no. They do not see anyone who does not follow their mold. The same is true for us. We only see what we find important. Watch bernanke tonight.
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Post by the1badger on Apr 27, 2011 10:29:41 GMT -5
I think we need to stop bullshitting around.
The longer we wait the easier it is going to be for them to pound us.
We are all COMPLETELY within our Constitutional rights to remove and replace the current government. There is no question about that.
Now I am no dummy. I don't want to be the first poor bastard out there to get dinged by the pecker gnats...but we really need to take a look at what is happening here.
There are ?K of us packed and ready to go.
We can continue to let things go and get picked off one at a time or we can uphold our Constitution and provide a Republic for our future generations.
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Post by Cujo on Apr 27, 2011 11:00:03 GMT -5
If an attempt is made to pick us off one by one, I pray that all groups or at least most are in touch with each other. I can't see them cutting the internet for a few, but I could be wrong.
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Post by avordvet on Apr 27, 2011 15:41:57 GMT -5
We can continue to let things go and get picked off one at a time or we can uphold our Constitution and provide a Republic for our future generations. Who's gonna take the fight to 'em... You? Me? The handful of us that have been awake and preparing? Who are you going to take the fight to?... D.C. where the main commie players reside? Try it now and YOU WILL BE PUT DOWN HARD. There are MANY that are ready for the show, but not enough, and to go off half cocked is to invite defeat, the time will come and I believe we will all know when that time arrives. Its a pisser, but that's the way that it is. Use the time to complete preparations, recruit people into your network... task lists, target lists, supply lists. (PPPPP)
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Post by brocktownsend on Apr 27, 2011 16:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by avordvet on Apr 27, 2011 16:11:54 GMT -5
Some use the 5 P's We used the 6 P's... Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
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Post by aronatbc on Apr 28, 2011 8:14:54 GMT -5
You can plan. You can have a plan for your plan. You can even have a plan for your plans planning that plans another plan.
If you never execute your plan, while your avowed enemy is out executing his, you will lose everything.
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Post by the1badger on Apr 28, 2011 8:31:26 GMT -5
You can plan. You can have a plan for your plan. You can even have a plan for your plans planning that plans another plan. If you never execute your plan, while your avowed enemy is out executing his, you will lose everything. You have got to be my brother!
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Post by aronatbc on Apr 28, 2011 12:39:22 GMT -5
You can plan. You can have a plan for your plan. You can even have a plan for your plans planning that plans another plan. If you never execute your plan, while your avowed enemy is out executing his, you will lose everything. You have got to be my brother! Hhhmm... Possible. I have no idea how much catting around my Mom may have done while I my Dad was in the military... :-)
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Post by safetalker on Apr 28, 2011 20:12:53 GMT -5
Lets be real here for a moment. I believe that everyone here on this board, this Internet, and alive in this nation is waiting with bated breath for that first round(not Bullet). If everyone reading this, (Feds included) had a specific place where they would go just after, there would be no need to go. On these boards I read posters crying out in anguish because they can't do anything about the continued incursions on them. The anguish is, as Don pointed out, based upon no target. If you sit on your back deck cleaning your MBR until the Blue wipes off it will never get used for freedom. Get the hell up tomorrow and walk around your neighborhood, country folks use your stretch of the road. Find out who lives there! Shake a few hands, swap a few lies, and come home and write an intelligence summary of what you found. How many gave you the bird , how many seemed clueless, how many were worth watching, and how many seemed to be patriots, or Feds. I never said try to sign them up just ask about the weather and property taxes. Get up the next day and walk it again, but this time using your memory only, note where the Satellite dishes, the Radio Antennas, the Motorcycles, the off-road utility vehicles are located. The next day walk around and with your memory only find out where the Fire Hydrants are located. While there look for non-road access to your neighborhood. Then begin building your community defense book. When you have this on your neighborhood or road. Spread out Till this is complete stop bitching because you ain't ready.
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Post by jimbravo on Apr 28, 2011 21:22:50 GMT -5
Lets be real here for a moment. I believe that everyone here on this board, this Internet, and alive in this nation is waiting with bated breath for that first round(not Bullet). If everyone reading this, (Feds included) had a specific place where they would go just after, there would be no need to go. On these boards I read posters crying out in anguish because they can't do anything about the continued incursions on them. The anguish is, as Don pointed out, based upon no target. If you sit on your back deck cleaning your MBR until the Blue wipes off it will never get used for freedom. Get the hell up tomorrow and walk around your neighborhood, country folks use your stretch of the road. Find out who lives there! Shake a few hands, swap a few lies, and come home and write an intelligence summary of what you found. How many gave you the bird , how many seemed clueless, how many were worth watching, and how many seemed to be patriots, or Feds. I never said try to sign them up just ask about the weather and property taxes. Get up the next day and walk it again, but this time using your memory only, note where the Satellite dishes, the Radio Antennas, the Motorcycles, the off-road utility vehicles are located. The next day walk around and with your memory only find out where the Fire Hydrants are located. While there look for non-road access to your neighborhood. Then begin building your community defense book. When you have this on your neighborhood or road. Spread out Till this is complete stop bitching because you ain't ready. Wise words. You're responsible for your own piece of ground.
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Post by aronatbc on Apr 29, 2011 9:22:56 GMT -5
More notes:
Election season can help you identify who may be a sympathetic ear, or a potential obstacle, as well. Note who has what kind of yard signs.
For those in more Rural/Sub-urban areas... Note game trails, creeks, rivers and where they go and how accessibility may change with the seasons or due to flooding.
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Post by hefferman1 on Apr 29, 2011 10:22:23 GMT -5
In the early 1770's everyone was upset. Just like today. They needed that one step over the line, that galvanized everyone and brought it to a head.
For them it was the attempt to take the arms they would use to defend themselves. We know the story well, 1 if by land and 2 if by sea. On Lexington green a small group meet who were saying NO!!! as loud as they could without squeezing triggers.
Then it happened, a shot was fired. Men were in a very intense situation. Then the powers that be of that day opened up and killed men.
We may see a weapons ban of some sort, or a suppression of a Right. We will not comply. Then somewhere men will stand in protest and say, NO!!! as loud as they can without squeezing triggers, or setting off bombs. It may be at a rally against union thugs, or illegals, or a RTC rally. The powers that be of today will come down too hard, men will be in an intense situation and shots will be fired.
We must be ready to move to the sound of the guns and respond to preserve our God Given Inalienable Rights, just as the Patriots of that day did. It maybe in Connecticut, or California, or someplace in between. Governments have always tried to seize too much power and Freemen have always demanded their Rights. We do not need to strike first, but we will need to respond like a hammer falling on an anvil, and send a ringing sound that will cause the tuning fork in men's heart to vibrate with the demand for Liberty and Freedom.
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Post by safetalker on Apr 29, 2011 20:59:30 GMT -5
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For goodness sakes, what in the world do we need to do to get a law enforcement officer to come in and enforce the law? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First off Don it is not their Job. The only "Law Enforcement' officer in the 50 states is the duly elected Sheriff of the County. Secondly the Congress of the United States, the legislature of the state do not pass "LAWS" they pass Statutes, Acts, Ordinances, Rules, and procedures. These various documents only pertain to commerce and corporations. The City cops, County deputies, and State patrols are there to collect fines, and enforce these Statutes, Acts, Ordinances, Rules, and procedures. What this Amish farmer as long as he was on Amish land was not in trouble. When he stepped off the land of the people (Amish) he entered into Commerce under the Uniform Commercial Code and rules of Maritime. It goes back to the old saying i you want to run with the big dogs you got to pee high on the tree. He left his Yahweh given Farm and went into the world of UCC Commerce and did so without looking at the rules.
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