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Post by avordvet on May 20, 2015 4:44:53 GMT -5
Now I know why the Waco PD is so afraid of potential payback... because if this report is true there is some serious payback coming. *UPDATE* Report of Waco Police Affidavit/Warrants Inconsistent With Initial Public Claims By Same Police…Posted on May 19, 2015 by sundance Reporting now indicating that all deceased were killed by police gunfire. Reporting now indicating 27 people shot by police, 8 still in hospital. Reporting lowers weapons confiscated to less than 50, mostly pocket knives, chains (attached to wallets?), nail clippers, one padlock and firearms (CCP fired or unfired?). From the outset the police description of events at the Twin Peaks (Waco) Gang Shooting seemed oddly self-serving, super efficient/fast, and unusually specific for a mass casualty event outlined in under 3 hours. It was *as if* they wanted to get out ahead of something. theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/19/report-of-waco-police-affidavitwarrants-inconsistent-with-initial-public-claims-by-same-police/
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Post by avordvet on May 20, 2015 5:00:07 GMT -5
h/t to freenorthcarolina for link Deadliest motorcycle gang in Waco shoot-out was not Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars, or Vaqueros. It was police.NotMyTribe, May 19, 2015 Was the Waco Shoot-out a gunfight between rival gangs or an ambush laid by law enforcement? Police are monopolizing the testimony but the evidence suggests a barroom brawl became a pretext to kill or arrest essentially grassroots organizers, now charged with “organized crime”. Investigators can litter the crime scene with brass-knuckles and knives but the shell casings are going to be police issue. Motorcycle headlights were on, indicating club members were trying to leave. Police claim that the brawlers redirected their fire toward officers, but did that happen while the bikers were trying to ride off? Because that task requires both hands. This gangland shoot-out has all the subtlety of the St Valentine’s Massacre. notmytribe.com/2015/deadliest-motorcycle-gang-in-waco-shoot-out-was-not-bandidos-cossacks-scimitars-or-vaqueros-it-was-police-843153.html
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Post by watchful on May 20, 2015 12:45:06 GMT -5
Support your local Militia! If none in town start one! One thing bikers and clubs are known for! PAY BACK! If I was in WACO in unoiform that day I would be planning a very long vacation to say Europe! Count on a return with buddies, oath keepers, and very few pocket knives. What ever WACO PD was paid by DHS for this was way short of what it will cost in the long run.
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Post by avordvet on May 23, 2015 5:00:19 GMT -5
Govt agents gun down citizens, and then the citizens respond in kind... this is the root of 4GW. This is something that citizens in the patriot movement have warned LE about for many years, you gotta get on the right side of the line before you and/or your family suffer for your actions. Because, if these police massacre allegations play out, I will not weep one tear for your demise. Wacko PD Daily NewzThe Aging Rebel, May 22, 2015 Yesterday, the Texas Department of Public Safety leaked a confidential bulletin to CNN, “the most trusted name in news,” that claims that members of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club are arming themselves with “grenades and C4 explosives” and are plotting to kill “high-ranking law enforcement officials and their families with car bombs.” The bulletin lists possible targets in Waco, Austin, El Paso, Dallas, Corpus Christi and Houston. The alleged plots have been hatched to retaliate against police who shot “their brothers” as they emerged from the Twin Peaks restaurant last Sunday. The bulletin is based on information from an informant who cites members of the Bandidos and Black Widows Motorcycle Clubs as a source. The Aging Rebel has learned that one Bandido was killed last Sunday. This page believes that seven members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and one unaffiliated biker were killed. The unaffiliated biker was 65-year-old Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, a former Marine who won a Purple Heart in Vietnam. The official cause of Rodriguez’ death was a “gunshot wound to the head and trunk.” Because of the nature of the fatal wound, this page believes Rodriguez was lying on the ground when he was shot in the head by a long rifle. www.agingrebel.com/12902
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Post by southwind on May 24, 2015 7:41:57 GMT -5
Leaked to CNN? Nobody smells disinfo with this?
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Post by avordvet on May 29, 2015 15:23:18 GMT -5
Motorcyclist files lawsuit over Waco biker brawl arrestJason Trahan, WFAA 11:35 a.m. CDT May 29, 2015 WACO -- A 30-year old father and former firefighter who is also a member of a motorcycle club has filed a federal civil rights lawsuit alleging he was illegally swept up in the police dragnet following this month's Twin Peaks biker shootout in Waco. Matthew Clendennen of Hewitt is a member of the Scimitars Motorcycle Club and was at Twin Peaks on May 17. He was one of approximately 170 people arrested after the melee, which left nine dead, and was charged with engaging in organized crime. www.wfaa.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/29/motorcyclist-files-lawsuit-over-waco-biker-brawl-arrest/28152789/
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Post by avordvet on Jun 1, 2015 4:54:07 GMT -5
What You Get When You Do Mass Arrests2015-05-31 14:07 by Karl Denninger Heh heh heh...... I love 42 USC 1983 and wish more people used it -- especially as it's intended to be used, which is exactly how this guy's doing it: He is suing the cops personally, not just the city. And see, that's the beauty of it -- 42 USC 1983 conveys personal liability for violations of one's civil rights, and while said cops may not have nearly as much money as the city does it hurts a hell of a lot more when you're personally bankrupted and have someone after you -- legally -- working to collect their judgment for the rest of your life. market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230191
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Post by avordvet on Jun 1, 2015 13:45:25 GMT -5
Uh Oh, LE in Waco can see the crap storm coming and they are furiously trying to negate the legal damage...
LE keeps pressing this crap and they're gonna suffer some repercussions...
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Post by avordvet on Jun 2, 2015 8:56:50 GMT -5
I hope the county, city and PD are bankrupted over this... Attorneys: Waco shooting detainees could be legal liabilityClay Thorp, Herald staff writer, Posted: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 4:30 am “The thing that infuriates me is, that’s not the way our government is founded,” Looney said. “That’s a special rule for that county that doesn’t apply to the rest of America. You don’t round everybody up and then sort it out later. You sort it out and round up the people that deserve to be rounded up. “This is just peculiar: the notion that you can arrest somebody for just being there and then only after that you investigate it you let them go, but the investigation takes weeks, this is just so un-American.” The ramifications of such an un-American act is the potential for a multimillion-dollar suit. “It’s just a debacle,” Looney said. “It’s a small town and the expense is going to be millions. Defending these lawsuits is going to be seven figures. The settlements are going to be very damaging to a town that size.” kdhnews.com/news/texas/attorneys-waco-shooting-detainees-could-be-legal-liability/article_0bed7304-08e1-11e5-894e-a7ed4c5d990b.html
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Post by avordvet on Jun 2, 2015 13:34:47 GMT -5
The McLennan County Re-Education CampAging Rebel, May 28, 2015 So far, authorities in Waco have been oblique about how 26 men came to be shot; what part police played in the massacre, or why people who self-evidently had nothing to do with the shooting were arrested and charged with murder. McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna has intimated that the bikers are being punished for not telling police what police want to hear. In an interview with television station KXXV, Reyna said “I’ve heard enough about my person was a victim and most of the people were victims. Well, guess what? If they’re victims they shouldn’t have any problem coming to law enforcement and cooperating to be sure justice is done and the individuals solely responsible are brought to justice. And, through the first round of interviews we aren’t getting that.” The hard news in this case portrays the city of Waco and McLennan County as rogue governments that have gone mad. www.agingrebel.com/12940
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Post by avordvet on Jun 3, 2015 12:20:03 GMT -5
4 Reasons that Waco Biker Gang Shootout Reflects Badly on PoliceOne of the bikers arrested sues Waco police for having no cause for the arrest.Brian Doherty, Jun. 2, 2015 10:38 pm The police were already surrounding the restaurant in force, ready for action. Exactly how and why they began firing on the bikers and what happened before then should not necessarily be trusted merely from their mouths. They still have not officially announced how many of the dead or wounded were shot by police themselves. reason.com/blog/2015/06/02/4-reasons-that-waco-biker-gang-shootout
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Post by southwind on Jun 3, 2015 14:55:25 GMT -5
This may turn out to be the largest mass shooting of (innocent) civilians by the police in history.
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Post by Michael Downing on Jun 3, 2015 20:49:57 GMT -5
ncrenegade.com/editorial/tom-baugh-on-the-waco-biker-ambush/Tom Baugh on the Waco Biker Ambush I think that this will prove to be a seminal moment. All of LEO groupthink is based on the idea that victims of what some call lawfare are incapable of fighting back in non-violent ways. However, in this case, the victims include dozens of middle class people who can afford an expensive hobby. At least a handful of those are likely to be able to wage counter-value lawfare themselves, or will be connected well enough to those capable of doing it on their behalf. The fact that some of these guys are waging counter-value lawfare is an indication of their belief in fundamental fairness. Many others (aka “white hats”) are watching while holding similar beliefs. Only one of two outcomes can happen: a. The system supports the counter-value lawfare and pushes back against the regime. To TPTB, this outcome is unacceptable, even unpossible. b. The system slithers out from under the counter-value lawfare, thus teaching all paying attention that there is no fundamental justice or fairness at play, and breeding more”black hats” who go underground in the political sense. This is the more likely outcome, but will have dramatic, unintended downstream consequences as these newly minted black hats prepare and recruit accordingly. Neither of those two options benefit TPTB. As with Bundy Ranch, their operators are hoist upon the horns of their own dilemma. Lesson? I will say it a thousand times: pimped rifles are nice, camo is nice, PT is nice, but just as fundamentally essential as all of those is operating your own business(es) and making your own way, and power, in the world, independent of any HR department or timeclock. Only then will you, the citizen soldier, have the resources and operational flexibility to wage your own countervalue lawfare should the need arise. The deterrent effect of such a capability is substantially greater than might be obvious at first. Tom
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Post by avordvet on Jun 4, 2015 4:13:38 GMT -5
Twin Peaks Waco- What the Video Will Show (as soon as it is released)- Biker Witnesses's Perspective
Stephen P. Stubbs
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Post by southwind on Jun 4, 2015 7:35:34 GMT -5
Is there a link for that vid?
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Post by avordvet on Jun 4, 2015 12:18:09 GMT -5
Is there a link for that vid? Anytime you see an embedded vid, just click on the text at the top of the vid box and it will take you straight to the youtube address... www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDg3WPyBwwE
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Post by southwind on Jun 4, 2015 20:50:41 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 5, 2015 5:08:06 GMT -5
The lawsuits are starting to stack up... Good! Waco: Complaint Filed Against Official Who Set $1M Bonds for Bikersby Lee Stranahan, 4 Jun 201512 More legal challenges are stacking up against Waco authorities in the wake of the May 17th shooting incident outside a Twin Peaks restaurant. After last week’s recusal motion, another attorney has filed a complaint with the Texas State Commission on Judicial Conduct against Waco Justice of the Peace Walter H. “Pete” Peterson. www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/04/waco-complaint-filed-against-official-who-set-1m-bonds-for-bikers/
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Post by southwind on Jun 5, 2015 6:31:17 GMT -5
Kinda hope they end up bankrupting that town.
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Post by avordvet on Jun 16, 2015 4:34:09 GMT -5
Four Weeks Later: Waco Police Narrative Unravelsby Lee Stranahan, 14 Jun 2015 Four weeks after the deadly May 17th shooting incident outside a Waco Twin Peaks restaurant, more details have come out concerning the incident, but significant questions still remain about the actions taken by law enforcement and the police’s account of what transpired. Although the national mainstream media has largely moved on from the Waco story, if critics of the police are correct, the incident represents an unprecedented civil rights violation and media cover-up campaign by the Waco authorities. Police in Waco still have yet to state how many bikers, if any, were killed by the police, or to explain why the police showed up in force at all prior to the meeting on May 17th. www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/14/four-weeks-later-waco-police-narrative-unravels/
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Post by avordvet on Jun 19, 2015 4:07:44 GMT -5
h/t to freenorthcarolina for link... Waco Cell Phone SearchesAR, June 18, 2015 The black shroud the Waco Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives threw over the Twin Peaks Massacre 33 days ago leaks a little more light every day. The most interesting breaking information today comes from Dallas attorney F. Clinton Broden who has filed a civil rights lawsuit on behalf of Scimitar Motorcycle Club member Matthew Clendennen against the City of Waco and McLennan County, Texas. Today Broden released a search warrant and search warrant affidavit for Clendennen’s cell phone. The two documents contain information that directly contradicts statements made by Waco Police last Friday and that indicates the extent to which law enforcement has tried to control the commonly agreed upon narrative of what happened that day. The documents illustrate not only the Waco police’s complete lack of credibility but the arrogance with which the department has lied. “I was lied to by the Waco police,” Broden complained. The Waco police have been lying to everybody. The Waco police have lied constantly in order to deliberately confuse the public’s understanding of what transpired that day. It might be time to start asking why they’re lying. www.agingrebel.com/13040
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Post by avordvet on Jul 13, 2015 4:51:42 GMT -5
What We Learned About Waco This WeekendAging Rebel, July 12, 2015 The Twin Peaks Massacre has always, clearly, been an ATF or FBI operation gone terribly wrong. The Waco police and most of official Waco have been lying about it since May 17. A couple of pieces of evidence became generally available this weekend that shine a little light into this black hole of deceit. www.agingrebel.com/13132
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Post by southwind on Jul 13, 2015 6:54:52 GMT -5
Waco detective tabbed as grand jury foreman in Twin Peaks case WACO – A Waco police detective has been chosen as the foreman of the 12 people most likely to decide if the bikers in the Waco Twin Peaks shootout get indicted. The grand jury, composed of 12 grand jurors and two alternates, were sworn in Wednesday by McLennan County District Judge Ralph Strother. At that time, the detective was also appointed as the grand jury foreman. According to The Waco Tribune-Herald, Detective James Head was wearing his police badge and pistol when he was sworn in. The 26-year veteran is a theft detective assigned to the department's neighborhood services division. The selection of Head to be on the grand jury - much less to serve as its foreman - has outraged the attorneys of the bikers. www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/texas-news/2015/07/09/waco-detective-tabbed-as-grand-jury-foreman-in-twin-peaks-case/29945339/
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Post by avordvet on Aug 5, 2015 4:40:54 GMT -5
Media Challenges Waco Twin Peaks Gag Order As Questions About DA and Judge EmergeBy David Codrea on August 4, 2015 “The Houston Chronicle has jumped into the fray over a gag order issued in the case involving 177 bikers charged in Waco for their alleged roles in a melee that left nine people dead and 18 wounded,” the paper self-reported Friday. “The Chronicle’s parent company, the Hearst Corporation, is one of 16 news media companies that are supporting a biker’s fight against the gag order. Others include the Associated Press, New York Times and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.” . . . “Authorized journalists” doing their job and acting as a watchdog on government seems a rarity to those of us jaded from seeing the establishment media act more like propagandists and spiking stories that don’t advance a narrative. In this case, the joint action is the result of legal circumstances that also merit further scrutiny. www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/08/david-codrea/media-challenges-waco-twin-peaks-gag-order-as-questions-about-da-and-judge-emerge/
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Post by avordvet on Aug 13, 2015 12:31:11 GMT -5
More recently, the autopsies are released, of course without the ballistics data, but it is very obvious that the killings were done by marksmen.
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Post by avordvet on Sept 13, 2015 14:41:06 GMT -5
Texas Officials Under Scrutiny for Biker Shootout CaseBy Emily Schmall, associated press, WACO, Texas — Sep 13, 2015, 2:00 PM ET Bikers and public watchdogs have criticized authorities here for how they've handled the investigation, citing the mass arrests in which people were held for days or weeks on $1 million bonds without sufficient evidence to support such actions four months after the shootings. No formal charges have been made, and it remains unclear whose bullets, including police bullets, struck the dead and injured, or when cases will be presented to a grand jury, which is currently led by a Waco police detective. "I don't know of any defense lawyer who hasn't looked at the facts of this case and gasped," said Grant Scheiner, a criminal defense attorney in Houston not connected to the bikers' case. abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-officials-scrutiny-biker-shootout-case-33722851
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Post by Michael Downing on Sept 14, 2015 20:55:07 GMT -5
h/t WRSA www.cbsnews.com/news/secrecy-surrounds-waco-biker-shootout-investigation/Secrecy surrounds Waco biker shootout investigationWACO, Texas - The secrecy that enshrouds the investigation into a biker shootout in May that left nine people dead led to the mass-arrest of 177 people is hardly surprising in this city, where public scrutiny is rare and unwelcome. On the banks of the Brazos River in Central Texas, Waco and the surrounding county are largely run by a close-knit circle of judges, prosecutors and law enforcement that defense lawyers complain leads local agencies to close ranks in the aftermath of this most recent calamity. Waco biker gangs shootout It's a city where a district judge and district attorney are former law partners, the mayor is the son of a former mayor, the sheriff comes from a long line of lawmen and Waco pioneers and the sheriff's brother is the district attorney's chief investigator. Bikers and public watchdogs have criticized authorities here for how they've handled the investigation, citing the mass arrests in which people were held for days or weeks on $1 million bonds without sufficient evidence to support such actions four months after the shootings. www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/09/david-codrea/oversight-and-judiciary-could-ask-atf-about-twin-peaks-ballistics-report/Oversight and Judiciary Could Ask ATF about Twin Peaks Ballistics Report“A McLennan County investigator has obtained a search warrant to extract a bullet from the arm of a biker — killed last week in a wreck — who was wounded in the deadly May 17 Twin Peaks shootout but left Waco before he was identified or arrested,” the Waco Tribune-Herald reported Wednesday. He’s doing it because it may help identify the weapon used to create the wound, and wants to have the sample submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is conducting the forensic analysis of weapons, bullets, bullet fragments and casings recovered at the scene…” . . . The curious thing about that is, even though the shootings happened on May 17, ATF still hasn’t released its findings, so they could not be included in the autopsy reports released last month on the nine bikers killed. And that’s after “ATF Senior Special Agent Nicole Strong said pieces of evidence from the Waco Twin Peaks cases … are being given top priority over other cases.” Obviously, with an important investigation going on, inappropriately rushing things won’t serve the interests of justice, the case must not be tried in the media, and law enforcement agencies don’t comment on existing investigations anyway – unless doing so serves their interests. That said, many serious questions about who was responsible for all of the shootings remain unanswered, and suspicions are further fueled by the lack of an official statement.
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Post by avordvet on Sept 17, 2015 16:32:06 GMT -5
Waco: Biker’s Examining Trial On Probable Cause Set For FridayBy: Paul J. Gately, September 17, 2015 WACO (September 17, 2015) An examining trial is set for Friday for one of the men arrested in the wake of the deadly Twin Peaks biker gang shooting as his lawyer tries to prove police had no probable cause to arrest him. Retired District Judge James E. Morgan will preside over the trial which is set for 9 a.m. Friday in the McLennan County courthouse. www.kwtx.com/ourtown/home/headlines/328081601.html
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Post by avordvet on Sept 22, 2015 11:00:05 GMT -5
A Voice In WacoAR, September 21, 2015 A member of the Desgraciados Motorcycle Club named George Bergman appeared at an examining trial last Friday in Waco. Bergman had just arrived at the Twin Peaks restaurant last May 17 and was walking to the Don Carlos restaurant on the other side of the parking lot to use the bathroom there when he heard a gun shot. He was detained, found to be in possession of two, small, legal knives incarcerated for hours and finally arrested. He spent 20 days in jail before being released on $80,000 bail. He lost his job and continues to suffer from injuries suffered during his incarceration. Last Friday he asked that the charges against him be dismissed because there was no probable cause to believe that he was guilty of participating in organized criminal activity. A judge named James E. Morgan refused to dismiss the charges so Bergman’s nightmare will continue. But before he left the court he read the following statement into the record. www.agingrebel.com/13445
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Post by avordvet on Oct 9, 2015 18:53:15 GMT -5
The DA Who Is Trying To Shut Up 177 Arrested Waco Bikers Won’t Shut UpBy Tamara Tabo Abel Reyna should have been careful of what he wished for. Reyna, the McLennan County, Texas District Attorney who requested a sweeping gag order following the the arrest of 177 bikers at a shooting at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco, has had a hard time complying with that order himself. abovethelaw.com/2015/10/the-da-who-is-trying-to-shut-up-177-arrested-waco-bikers-wont-shut-up/
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